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FX and KaptainLes
#1
Offender's Name: 
FX with some decals around it, and KaptainLes

Offender's SteamID: 
They're both Donors I assume it's easy to obtain these

Offender's Rank: 
Donor

What They Did: 
FX has sent multiple harassment messages in retort to me questioning the outcome of their RDM which I didn't report. After RDM'ing me they reported me then got me slain for a round. I did not return fire the entire time. Throughout the night they had other donors abuse their ranks in gagging and kicking people who supported anything other than their side.

When They Did It: 
4:30 AM to 6:00 AM Eastern time zone
Potential Witnesses: 
Dan and a plethora of other active members in that time zone. MsPaint, Colonel who got kicked as a by product of the bias abuse.

Proof: 
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/u...843344D2E/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/u...BA1C535FE/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/u...925754581/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/u...AC26177FB/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/u...C16DACC40/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/u...C79650A74/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/u...8E8DBA6ED/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/u...AFB8999C5/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/u...45FBACAAC/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/u...B2293FAAE/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/u...0F10C3074/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/u...5A170D720/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/u...A06EADE47/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/u...6268D839D/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/u...95C0D3AC7/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jY1vQ09...e=youtu.be
Other:
In the youtube video, it shows their entire demeanor the entire time for how they feel the rules and obligations apply to them because they donated.
#2
Okay I didn't rdm you, you falsely kos'd me while I was innocent and I killed you for it which I can do and I reported you for it which is within the rules and you were slain for it justly which I've told you this multiple times but you cannot seem to comprehend it and then go on to say that It wasn't in the rules on the loading screen even though on the loading screen itself it says to read more rules type !motd.

https://i.gyazo.com/62fab5eba9ae1fe4b7aa...105598.png
https://i.gyazo.com/4df2809bf4e226a2653f...54712f.png

As for the "harassment" I only ever really responded to words you said to me in voice chat and what I said isn't harassment its literally basic TTT banter and as for the video, my demeanor was only like that when I said "oh no hes gonna report me" because I knew I did nothing wrong and that you were wasting your time. Then afterwards I have multiple witnesses of you calling me a thot, cunt or a bitch.

As for the kick of colonel I did that because he rdmed me and I wrote "!kick colonel Rdm no mods on rejoin" and he literally said in voice chat that he did it cause I was "suspicious" I was also innocent and didn't do anything and I wasn't called high sus to be kos'd in overtime to begin with.

https://i.gyazo.com/9f2723d658e4bd9026cb...bf2fab.png

Sorry I don't have video evidence but everything that they said was in voice chat and I couldn't be bothered to open OBS
I have Dan, KaptainLes, BuZz, GAMER, grasse, raven and a few more as witnesses
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#3
Hiya! Reporting for jury duty.

FX Steamid: STEAM_0:1:98549746
Kaptain Steamid: STEAM_0:1:68242605

Anyways, this all started with NeoMetric false KOSing FX. NeoMetric was reported and slain. Handled by Drunk Thicc Noodle Lady & GAMER. Everything escalated in VC, which could've been handled better on both sides. But, you also kept provoking the matter which resulted in her responding.

Most of the screenshots aren't clear evidence of any cases toxicity and the also only show one side. There were a lot of VC coming from you as well.

On the matter of the kicks. There were no mods on that time to add a slay. So, as donor they took responsibility to deal with RDMs and trolls. Colonel was kicked for rdming FX the previous round, as shown:
Shot & Damage logs 
http://prntscr.com/ubzp6c

At the end of the night, you kept harassing FX, and Kaptain stepped in trying to stop the toxicity. For that you started provoking Kaptain as well, calling him a white knight, etc. Kaptain had enough of it and ended up kicking you. 
I'm sorry, I believe you're in the wrong for this. It's just a GMOD server, we rdm, accident or not, we get slain. We should move on from it. Why let it ruin your mood, yah know?

Edit: I haven't watched the video yet. Once I do, I'll most likely reedit.
Edit After Video. She shouldn't have said what she said. But, neither have you. (Not shown in video) Both sides are at wrong for this
#4
I'm seeing a lot of evidence supporting the end result. Nothing providing evidence against the hours leading towards the outcome. The kick on Colonel was always explained in the reports and understandably served. As the reports themselves explain. Not just the beginning/end result. The screenshots provided by by FX or Dan don't provide any evidence to the events that occurred throughout the night or the general mindset the regulars have towards outsiders. It is generally viewed that people who dont hold status aren't valued. However, I am only able to put in so many hours a week and it happens to fall on the weekends. I can't hope to obtain the amount of dedicated game time that everyone else seems to have. The video evidenced provides perfect example of the genuine feeling that they are better than everyone else. That is how I felt when I tried to explain my situation and was met with textual examples of how soft I was, how I was being a crybaby and how I couldn't handle the outcome of a decision.
#5
I was not there but from the evidence presented it would seem you false KOSed FX, so FX shot you for false KOSing them, FX and you die as a result and you got slayed , and then after it being resolved that somehow resulted in an argument, again I was not there but from the evidence presented in your screenshots.

the chat FX says "you kosed me first then I shot you, I had a perfect reason", like it was in response to something you said
the chat FX says "it does not matter if it was a joke or not" (about the KOS), like it was in response to something you said saying it was only meant to be a joke
the chat FX says "I mean im in the right here clearly", again like it was in response to something you said
the chat FX says "I mean your the one making comments lmao", like it was in response to something you said we are not seeing in the chat logs
the chat FX says "dude I live with my BF and work", like it was in response to an insult toward them
When KaptainLes gagged you he said "That's enough from you", from what I heard when I got on right after this happen you made some sexual/harassing comments towards FX and that is why he gagged you which lines up in my mind with the words he used when gagging you.
After you got gagged another player, an apparent 3rd party who made comments for both sides from the screens you posted thanks KaptainLes for gagging you.

Now what I don't understand is how this escalated from, you getting the slay and at that point the situation being resolved in terms of the rules, ok you took your slay an eye for an eye but after that how did it turn into an argument? From the chat logs presented they are only responses to something someone else said which is not shown, specifically what you said towards them that caused these responses. I also think your description of the video is inaccurate, while I think what they said was childish I think you are being a bit dramatic with your overall description of that video and the situation itself.

Again, I was not on when this occurred but that is what I think from the evidence presented. I am not personally friends with FX or KaptainLes but I have played with them at night and they follow the rules when they are on, I don't think they should be banned.
#6
Ok Here we go. 


Everyone on this server has banter with each other. Now sometimes it may be a little borderline. But in the end no one is seriously out to annoy or harm or abuse anyone else. This is a pretty good community.


I Stayed out of you and FXs little cat fight most of the night, with your steam friend colonel piping in every now and then .(Hence why my screenshots only came at the end) . We had a bit of fun playing together at the start and he seemed like a pretty chill dude and i'd honestly like to see him back on the server sometime.. At the start of all this I thought it was just some harmless banter. As it got worse it got much saltier and tho i probably should have started paying more attention and actually started gathering evidence. But i was just here to hang out and Have a good time before i deployed tomorrow so I wasn't really in the mood to do gather evidence and bring on and ADMIN. Which is where i fucked up, I should of brought actual staff on much earlier to deal with you and colonel.


So at the beginning I was neutral. Laughing at your little can and mouse game, even dedicating careless whisper to you and her, and telling you guys to get a room. After the first hour that's when it got a little annoying and i started telling you both to chill out, leave it be, have some fun and all round just to let it go. 


So that's when it takes a turn for the worse, you Start telling FX you're gonna get her banned on the forums and saying that you took screenshots of her harassing you. Now this is when I start to get a little bit annoyed because anything she has said that would even count as harassment has been in response to you or colonel. I remember thinking “Has this gone further than just banter”. Either way i gag you for a little bit at some point cause you kept calling her explicit names. I couldn't tell whether this was harassment or sexism but honestly you just kept provoking her then every time she reacted you we like “that's another screenshot”. 


It gets to the point in the night where I've just had enough, you're constantly abusing me, and calling me the “WhiteNight”. No I'm not trying to get laid over Gmod, I just saw someone Genuinely harassing a Female online and said “That's enough”. Sure neither party is totally innocent, but you were the party that went over the line. We play on Gmod to have a good time, not to get bullied over the internet. 

As far as I am concerned, I'm pretty sure I didn't abuse, I wasn't constantly kicking you every time you joined. Or gaging you every map. It is a kick to say enough is enough. Let's move on. You need to stop.

After you hopped back on you actually tried to have a chat and actually offered to take me off this post,(Witnesses: Knox, Grasse, dan and stormroad) which was nice but I think that this needs to been seen through.

In Conclusion, Yeah i did fuck up a little,  Colonel probably didn't deserve the kick, he RDMed once, genuinely didn't get involved too much, and if it wasn't for you constantly bring him into it. I wouldn't have grouped him with you. I should have stood up for FX sooner than I did, it was genuinely making me uncomfortable. But most Importantly I should have called an admin when things started going too far.
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#7
(09-05-2020, 06:18 AM)NeoMetric Wrote: I'm seeing a lot of evidence supporting the end result. Nothing providing evidence against the hours leading towards the outcome. The kick on Colonel was always explained in the reports and understandably  served. As the reports themselves explain. Not just the beginning/end result. The screenshots provided by  by FX or Dan don't provide any evidence to the events that occurred throughout the night or the general mindset the regulars have towards outsiders. It is generally viewed that people who dont hold status aren't valued. However,  I am only able to put in so many hours a week and it happens to fall on the weekends. I can't hope to obtain the amount of dedicated game time that everyone else seems to have. The video evidenced provides perfect example of the genuine feeling that they are better than everyone else. That is how I felt when I tried to explain my situation and was met with textual examples of how soft I was, how I was being a crybaby and how I couldn't handle the outcome of a decision.

I'm sorry that you didn't feel value as a member of our community. I hope this doesn't ruin your future game experience with us. This will be my last reply, considering I feel as if this thread will end up as word against words. 
As the screenshots shows, it only shows one side. You need one for one, an action for a reaction. You kept provoking the matter over voice chat, which lead into her responses. Also, from my experience from the night. Correct me if I'm wrong. I didn't hear/see you try to explain your side of the situation. All I saw were bickering from both sides. Yes, Kaptain and FX could've handled it better. But, at the same time you could have handled it better as well. The report found you guilty and were slain for it. The drama shouldn’t have even started at all.

Anyways, with everything being said. It's done and over with. We should move on. It's a GMOD server, nothing serious. We should all get some rest considering it was late when everything happens. Hope you and everyone else have a good morning/night.
#8
I wanted to wait before commenting on this to let you cool down, reflect on the situation and to give you the chance to reply with a sober and even head (iirc you had mentioned that you were fucked up). My hopes were that you'd realize on your own that your behavior towards Fx and the way that you handled the situation could've been alot better. I can't speak about the rdm that seems to have started everything since I hopped on right after it happened apparently but it looks like it's pretty clear what happened and won't waste time on it.

First off, I don't want you to think that this post is intended to villainize you and want to be fair about your behavior during the time that I was on. Outside of what was going on between you and Fx, you seemed pretty decent and genuine. You showed a good amount of kindness and positivity to a fair amount of people, I appreciate that side of you and would enjoy more of it if we were on together at the same time again. It's what made me think that you might come back and take responsibility and own up to your part in the whole situation.

You haven't replied though and the report should be moving forward. Sadly the kind and positive side you is diminished and comes off less sincere for me. It's one thing to disagree about a situation or to banter but your words were ugly and personal towards Fx by the end of the night. Saying things along the lines of that she only had money to donate to the server because she was a thot, calling her a cunt, saying she had 0 real word experience, a victim complex etc. Pretty fucked up things to say to another person over 1 round in ttt, one that you were at fault with even.

I feel like you let your emotions get the better of you and took things too personally. I don't say that to be mean or hurtful and apologize if it upsets you, that's not my intention but it's just something that I think might help you to hear, in hopes that you might be more mindful and react in a healthier way if you're in a situation like this again. You did cross a line and I don't think any of the gags or kicks were unjustified personally, even the non rdm kick against The Colonel was at the very least understandable.

https://gyazo.com/eab1b8c3c727b07c0acd31e06053c55e

That's during the round before he was kicked at the end of it, it's snipped from your last screenshot in your first post, not saying a kick was completely necessary but he was no angel himself, even with no context on his part in the voice chat of which he did play his own part in, although tame compared to NeoMetric.
#9
I should probably bump this. Personally I think the donors were just doing their best to keep the server chaos free by using their powers since no staff couldn’t get on after the two staff members left. Now for the behaviors though both sides could of been a lot better. I honestly don’t think the donors were abusing though in anyway and if you did keep talking to fx and bad talking then I can understand why she was responding.
#10
Forgot to close this, my bad. Yeah this situation doesn't really deserve any real punishments or donor strikes.
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