[ComradeJordan]

Offender's Name: 
Norm Minder
Offender's SteamID: 
STEAM_0:1:446918040
76561198854101809
What Server(s):
Murder
Offender's Rank: 
Moderator
What They Did: 
Gagged a few people and said that they would "never be ungagged". Targeted someone named Shade for being "too loud" even though they weren't being too loud at their ban time (when they were ungagged, they did indeed become loud, but they were not initially.) Then they went on to mute two people who were being slightly loud, and told them that they would quote "never be ungagged again", one of them was a first time offender that jumped on the bandwagon.
When They Did It: 
Around 10:30 PM EST July 29th
Potential Witnesses: 
Comrade Jordan (Me)

Shade
Steam64:76561198324297981

Fizzion (don't know steam ID)
Pika (don't know steam ID)

mollywater412
Steam64:76561198229621360

An Idiot
Steam64:76561198229621360
Proof: 
https://pasteboard.co/Kdvmbm1.png
Other:

[happy]

Now I hate to be that guy, but I think a little bit more evidence might be needed. Perhaps a recording of shade not being loud and being gagged the first time??

[Norm Minder]

Evidence will be added in a short just a bit time.

[ComradeJordan]

Now I hate to be that guy, but I think a little bit more evidence might be needed. Perhaps a recording of shade not being loud and being gagged the first time??

is saying "Never will ungag you guys again" not abuse? I'm sure other staff have access to logs and can see who's been gagged, one of the people was a first time offender, so that's literally admin abuse.

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Offender's Name: 
Norm Minder
Offender's SteamID: 
STEAM_0:1:446918040
76561198854101809
What Server(s):
Murder
Offender's Rank: 
Moderator
What They Did: 
Gagged a few people and said that they would "never be ungagged". Targeted someone named Shade for being "too loud" even though they weren't being too loud at their ban time (when they were ungagged, they did indeed become loud, but they were not initially.) Then they went on to mute two people who were being slightly loud, and told them that they would quote "never be ungagged again", one of them was a first time offender that jumped on the bandwagon.
When They Did It: 
Around 10:30 PM EST July 29th
Potential Witnesses: 
Comrade Jordan (Me)

Shade
Steam64:76561198324297981

Fizzion (don't know steam ID)
Pika (don't know steam ID)

mollywater412
Steam64:76561198229621360

An Idiot
Steam64:76561198229621360
Proof: 
https://pasteboard.co/Kdvmbm1.png
Other:

Messages with Shade: 
https://pasteboard.co/KdvAql7.png
https://pasteboard.co/KdvB4kB.png

[Deer-ly]

Now I hate to be that guy, but I think a little bit more evidence might be needed. Perhaps a recording of shade not being loud and being gagged the first time??

is saying "Never will ungag you guys again" not abuse? I'm sure other staff have access to logs and can see who's been gagged, one of the people was a first time offender, so that's literally admin abuse.

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Messages with Shade: 
https://pasteboard.co/KdvAql7.png
https://pasteboard.co/KdvB4kB.png

see here my problem right here is your leaving trust in the private messages between the offender most trolls will lie they don't care and they will type ledgers of words just to get away with it and minges will just not care as long as people are on there side they have as much ego as they need. But if you believe in shade then that is all you i just want to express my problems with you making this report mostly based upon another's word. (from my understanding)

[Stony]

Did you have previous messages with Shade before this ?

[Norm Minder]

First, I said "never be ungagged". Because it was map gag ,The next map hr will be ungaged automaticallyI explained the length of the gag you can see in Here and yes.Or just look at the relay

Frst, let's talk about shade, your friend.Who is not loud who and tells everyone  yell .

I didn't record anything  on this map ,I started recording  after everything started.First  shade was warned for making weird noises.I don't have any records, but I'll just add a warning here

The map ended and I started recording  the next map,If you look at the time, he said this 10 minutes later which is inappropriate .This is all screenshots for now lets watch the videos.

He got angry that I punished him for the last map and wanted to scream,gagged after a few warnings

Video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQqU19SfEh0

And what you added to the witnesses Fizzion lets talk about that guy 

First gag after warnings I can add warnings  if need

Video:Wery weird noises [/url][url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v1Bn_yyeTw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v1Bn_yyeTw

Final gag both  says Lets scream "who is never loud "

Video"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ0W_20WoV4(549)

And your conversations with your friend mean nothing.Before you guys joined the server , you were friends ...It's funny that you have these conversations just to collect evidence

Have a good day everyone

[B0T.ikillyou]

Not sure if you didn't think we had chat logs or something. One small screenshot that is taken with one statement does not mean anything by itself.
The evidence that Norm has provided is pretty solid evidence of the reasons why you were gagged with your responses.
I see no staff abuse here. Only a staff member doing their job.


https://www.dinklebergsgmod.com/site/sho...?tid=10483
Just thought I would drop a copy of the murder rules in case you need it.

[Here lies Eggroll's Eggrolls]

Not sure if you didn't think we had chat logs or something. One small screenshot that is taken with one statement does not mean anything by itself.
The evidence that Norm has provided is pretty solid evidence of the reasons why you were gagged with your responses.
I see no staff abuse here. Only a staff member doing their job.


https://www.dinklebergsgmod.com/site/sho...?tid=10483
Just thought I would drop a copy of the murder rules in case you need it.

Well said, I don't think this was real staff abuse but I do believe that Norm should realize that some players do believe a lot of the stuff staff say, especially a moderator,and I just recommend Norm to be more careful with what he says because as a Moderator most players take things you seriously. I do not say this to be rude or attack Norm or anyone, good luck Norm, don't be upset with me :)
I promise to play Murder again soon.

[Norm Minder]

Not sure if you didn't think we had chat logs or something. One small screenshot that is taken with one statement does not mean anything by itself.
The evidence that Norm has provided is pretty solid evidence of the reasons why you were gagged with your responses.
I see no staff abuse here. Only a staff member doing their job.


https://www.dinklebergsgmod.com/site/sho...?tid=10483
Just thought I would drop a copy of the murder rules in case you need it.

Well said, I don't think this was real staff abuse but I do believe that Norm should realize that some players do believe a lot of the stuff staff say, especially a moderator,and I just recommend Norm to be more careful with what he says because as a Moderator most players take things you seriously. I do not say this to be rude or attack Norm or anyone, good luck Norm, don't be upset with me :)
I promise to play Murder again soon.

There's no reason to be upset with you .I just don't understand this comment.I've said "never be ungagged"because 2. gag was a map gag .I've explained a million times that the next map they will be ungaged.I really don't know why did you tell me to realize what I'm saying.

I may have missed something .I'd be happy if you explain more