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Spring mine with magento stick = Not a kos?
#1
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Insane that you get slain for this when you witness him "spring someone" with it. 
Poor reasoning when it conflicts what's being seen in the clip.
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#2
it is but you need to see more then 1/4 second to actually tell what was happening, they could have just scrolled through their weapons.
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#3
(02-01-2025, 06:27 AM)Cryptic Salsa Wrote: it is but you need to see more then 1/4 second to actually tell what was happening, they could have just scrolled through their weapons.
Feel free to go through the video in slow motion and you can see that's clearly not what happened so your excuse just like Viruns, is poor.
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#4
(02-01-2025, 06:28 AM)Joker Wrote:
(02-01-2025, 06:27 AM)Cryptic Salsa Wrote: it is but you need to see more then 1/4 second to actually tell what was happening, they could have just scrolled through their weapons.
Feel free to go through the video in slow motion and you can see that's clearly not what happened so your excuse just like Virun, is poor.
Unfortunately we don't play the game in slow motion, which makes it difficult for me to believe you came to this assumption given both the distance you were from it when it happened and how long of a look you had at it, that being quite a short one.

At most you should just sus for this.
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#5
https://imgur.com/a/es5oWtH
posting this here for more context  

Joker to You: if you say so man, he's being doing it all night so it's very apparent and just a rule loop hole that someon eelse
Joker to You: get away with

i said something along the lines of ok so meta gaming just because they have done it in the past does not mean its always them doing it 

Joker to You: its not meta game to watch him do it on clip
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(02-01-2025, 06:41 AM)Cryptic Salsa Wrote: https://imgur.com/a/es5oWtH
posting this here for more context  

Joker to You: if you say so man, he's being doing it all night so it's very apparent and just a rule loop hole that someon eelse
Joker to You: get away with

i said something along the lines of ok so meta gaming just because they have done it in the past does not mean its always them doing it 

Joker to You: its not meta game to watch him do it on clip
Yes I was saying he's been doing it all night so it's obvious to watch for not simply as that's the reason for the KOS.

(02-01-2025, 06:33 AM)Jack (2) Wrote:
(02-01-2025, 06:28 AM)Joker Wrote:
(02-01-2025, 06:27 AM)Cryptic Salsa Wrote: it is but you need to see more then 1/4 second to actually tell what was happening, they could have just scrolled through their weapons.
Feel free to go through the video in slow motion and you can see that's clearly not what happened so your excuse just like Virun, is poor.
Unfortunately we don't play the game in slow motion, which makes it difficult for me to believe you came to this assumption given both the distance you were from it when it happened and how long of a look you had at it, that being quite a short one.

At most you should just sus for this.
You say unfortunately like we all play the game the same, if I didn't see you do it then you wouldn't have died for it but I happened to be able to see all of my screen not sure how it's debatable when its on video. I only mention slow motion it for yourself because you clearly cant see whats in front of you, play smarter man idk. I saw you do this so I killed you for it because that's what happened, you had a spring mine on the stick and I saw you throw it down on them.

(02-01-2025, 06:41 AM)Cryptic Salsa Wrote: https://imgur.com/a/es5oWtH
posting this here for more context  

Joker to You: if you say so man, he's being doing it all night so it's very apparent and just a rule loop hole that someon eelse
Joker to You: get away with

i said something along the lines of ok so meta gaming just because they have done it in the past does not mean its always them doing it 

Joker to You: its not meta game to watch him do it on clip
Not sure where my other post went but I always love a good post out of context.

I was explaining to you how I know he did and why I killed him. I love that you say "I said something along the lines of" when you can just as easily post your replies like you have done with mine but anyways, you say "doesnt mean its always them doing it" comprehension would be great here. You can see him doing it which is why I killed him. If someone died to a spring mine randomly on the map I wouldn't have killed him thats not enough proof and fits with your cope out. On the contrary carrying one on the stick and throwing around your mouse to slam it down and then suddenly the person next to Jack gets thrown up? It happens on video, I guess my monitor is just better man idk.
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#7
just wondering how can you discern whether they didnt walk into the spring mine themselves as opposed to jack holding it themselves being its invisible and you can't see it regardless other than assuming they did it bc they've done it before
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#8
Pretty conflicted, definitely only got a few frames, and it is entirely in the realm of possibility that in those few frames that person just walked on a spring mine while that person had a magneto stick out, and it would have looked identical on your screen. This, coupled with it being a your POV vs us viewing in death scenes thing changes our first impression of it as well. I think that the slay is fine ultimately. This is one of those shit happens slays. Most RDMs are what people think are valid KOSs, it happens.

But hey, at least all of the staff are agreeing on our interpretation of this. So that's a win for you. :)
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#9
How did you know they were holding a spring mine? The only way to see a spring mine as an inno is to see the shadow on the ground and you were never close enough to see that, making this a kill on sus.

I do understand your frustration. I’m personally of the philosophy that if I get caught doing something, even if it’s kill on sus, I don’t report. I got caught. But I can also understand that if someone plans do to something specifically in a way that won’t get them killed, and then they get killed, they have every right to want a slay, even if I wouldn’t.
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#10
You probably should have let him go since you were so far away and couldn't see the shadow of the mine and just called him out as highly sus.

However, it's extremely obvious what he was doing, and if you're a long time mod on the server I think you should know better not to report for being killed for borderline KOS things. I get killed almost every time I'm on for mega sus things (like standing next to one of my barnacles) but I think it's important to swallow your pride occasionally and just accept you got caught.
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