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RE: Bald Eagle Demotion - tridl - 02-15-2025
Not sure my opinion matters at all, but as a pretty new player Damien has seemed a bit hotheaded compared to experiences I have had with real staff in this server
-1
RE: Bald Eagle Demotion - chapman - 02-15-2025
Holding back vote for now, but I do want to ask you a question:
Maddox brought up an interesting point about how you "staff" by opinion, rather than by the rules.
What is something that you could say that might make those who feel that way believe and trust that you won't just cave once something happens? How would you approach a situation that made you "cave" in the past differently if it were to arise again?
RE: Bald Eagle Demotion - grif - 02-15-2025
I am not active in the disc or ingame at all, but I have to add my two cents; what could possibly be different this time versus the countless other times you’ve applied for staff? I’m sure you’ll probably get accepted for trusted, and if you’re committed to rising through the ranks you’ll get them, but eventually (like history shows) you’ll get burnt out and resign for the 90th time. No offense to you, but what’s the point? I understand the want to “help the community” and “moderate the server” but for you personally what will be different this time not taking into account the pattern of resignation that you continue to perpetuate?
+0 for my vote since I’m not active, just genuinely asking for an answer.
RE: Bald Eagle Demotion - Saylor Twift - 02-15-2025
+1 Honestly, I'm not too concerned with how often Damien(or any other staff member for that matter) resigns as long as they did a good job while staffing. Though I have some bias since Damien helped me get back into the staffing groove when I first applied, I feel that with his previous experience he could handle the responsibilities of trusted without issue. Others have pointed out that there may be some issues with drama or bias which is a valid concern but I don't really see it being much of an issue going off of his last tenure. In addition, I've seen at least a couple people/staff slur on server who then go on to get a staff rank or promotion pretty quickly so if they can get staff after that I see no reason to deny Damien over how he has handled drama in the past.
RE: Bald Eagle Demotion - PandaInPants - 02-15-2025
STOP making applications raaaah, I HAVE to respond to each one with a new opinion each time grr it makes me so mad %$#!& (add more mean words that i don't wanna take the time to write)
+0 I am not active on the server but damien usually is an ok staff member maybe like half as good as cimag
RE: Bald Eagle Demotion - Im A Bald Eagle - 02-15-2025
(02-15-2025, 04:32 PM)symptom maddox Wrote: PLEASE put a reason why Damien should or shouldn't be staff instead of putting a shit post
Fair enough. My original post has been updated.
RE: Bald Eagle Demotion - bunniey - 02-15-2025
i dont get the whole "i dont play and hardly engage with this community now except to be negative" thing that especially crops up on damien apps
people that have hardly engaged in conversation with damien for the better part of a year coming out of the woodworks rn
+1, obviously, people can and do grow, which he has been showing, oh yee denizens of the satellite servers
RE: Bald Eagle Demotion - Damien1579 - 02-16-2025
(02-15-2025, 08:07 PM)grif Wrote: what could possibly be different this time versus the countless other times you’ve applied for staff?I'm going into potentially getting staff with a different mindset. Across all of my accepted trusted apps, my mindset was different enough that you could tell it was a significant difference every time I applied and got accepted for trusted. This time is just different than the last, I feel a lot better about the community and I feel like the best thing for me to do at the moment is to give me time to the server and help out. Plus, I won't resign if accepted because (even though I disagree) the community has said that an inactive staff member is better than a resigned one.
Quote:chapmanIf my reply to this first part comes across as anything other than airing out my opinion then I'm sorry, I might be using the incorrect wording/phrasing and if it comes across as a snarky comment please keep in mind that I am not trying to make a snarky comment. I don't really think there's anything I can say at this point to make the majority of people who don't trust me to staff trust me, people are gonna hold biases and grudges against me and that's their right considering the history I have. I can make a whole bunch of promises that I'll keep and I'll still have people saying that I'm not doing enough to prove that I can be trusted. I will say, that if I am promoted to trusted that I will let my actions speak for myself and that I will do my potential trusted duties to the best of my ability, and I feel like that's about all I can say about it at this point.
What is something that you could say that might make those who feel that way believe and trust that you won't just cave once something happens?
How would you approach a situation that made you "cave" in the past differently if it were to arise again?
I think just walking away from situations is probably the best approach, the last time I resigned I tried to be involved in all of the April stuff and tried to fight for what was right in my eyes, but I did get myself too involved especially after learning that one of my best friends was a garbage human being. I think having a different mindset about that will make things much easier.
RE: Bald Eagle Demotion - icey - 02-16-2025
(02-16-2025, 12:19 AM)Damien Wrote:Realistically bro, you’ve said you wouldn’t resign the past 10 staff apps. The majority of the server would not take you seriously in any kind of leadership position. You have also said you wouldn’t apply for staff multiple times after resignations. I think the majority of +1’s here (besides your friend) are from people that are unaware of past conflicts or are newer players. The server is in a good spot right now and making you staff is a step backwards. You are 99% of the time going to be a negative presence when dealing with issues as you have shown multiple times in the past.(02-15-2025, 08:07 PM)grif Wrote: what could possibly be different this time versus the countless other times you’ve applied for staff?I'm going into potentially getting staff with a different mindset. Across all of my accepted trusted apps, my mindset was different enough that you could tell it was a significant difference every time I applied and got accepted for trusted. This time is just different than the last, I feel a lot better about the community and I feel like the best thing for me to do at the moment is to give me time to the server and help out. Plus, I won't resign if accepted because (even though I disagree) the community has said that an inactive staff member is better than a resigned one.
Quote:chapmanIf my reply to this first part comes across as anything other than airing out my opinion then I'm sorry, I might be using the incorrect wording/phrasing and if it comes across as a snarky comment please keep in mind that I am not trying to make a snarky comment. I don't really think there's anything I can say at this point to make the majority of people who don't trust me to staff trust me, people are gonna hold biases and grudges against me and that's their right considering the history I have. I can make a whole bunch of promises that I'll keep and I'll still have people saying that I'm not doing enough to prove that I can be trusted. I will say, that if I am promoted to trusted that I will let my actions speak for myself and that I will do my potential trusted duties to the best of my ability, and I feel like that's about all I can say about it at this point.
What is something that you could say that might make those who feel that way believe and trust that you won't just cave once something happens?
How would you approach a situation that made you "cave" in the past differently if it were to arise again?
I think just walking away from situations is probably the best approach, the last time I resigned I tried to be involved in all of the April stuff and tried to fight for what was right in my eyes, but I did get myself too involved especially after learning that one of my best friends was a garbage human being. I think having a different mindset about that will make things much easier.
“I think just walking away from situations is the best approach.” aka “as soon as things get hard I’m going to shut down and leave.” You say you “fight for what is right in your eyes” but ignore any evidence or facts shown to you if you consider that person your friend. Every time you have a staff app up, you try to act a little more proper, be a little more active, and seem a little friendlier. As soon as it’s denied or closed, a switch flips until the next staff app and the cycle repeats. I think you can be funny and I don’t have any personal issues with you, but you should not be in a position of power. If you had “grown”, we would have seen it by staff app 11.
Damien, I promise you that the best thing for you to do at the moment is not be staff for the 18th time on garrys mod. Just have fun being a player and give yourself a couple of months to reflect on criticism. None of these -1’s are personal attack, it’s really not that serious. I’m pretty sure almost every person here has +1’d one of your apps at one point or another.
RE: Bald Eagle Demotion - Damien1579 - 02-16-2025
(02-16-2025, 12:38 AM)i see......... Wrote: Realistically bro, you’ve said you wouldn’t resign the past 10 staff apps. The majority of the server would not take you seriously in any kind of leadership position. You have also said you wouldn’t apply for staff multiple times after resignations. I think the majority of +1’s here (besides your friend) are from people that are unaware of past conflicts or are newer players. The server is in a good spot right now and making you staff is a step backwards. You are 99% of the time going to be a negative presence when dealing with issues as you have shown multiple times in the past.I had said that If I felt like resigning I would resign, that is what I said in the past and I never said I wouldn't resign again until these past apps. I'm not asking for a leadership position, I'm asking to handle reports and hand out warnings. People's opinions can change on things that they are adamant about and this is not exclusive to me, people change their opinions all the time. Saying that people that only +1 me that aren't my friends only +1 because they're unaware is a disingenuous statement in my opinion, my history is available on the forums/the discord and I don't shy away from it, I even talk about it with people who want to know. I don't think I was ever a negative presence in the staff team except for maybe the first time because I felt dejected after getting bullied by community leaders that I had respected and looked up to even when I was 15. I was made to feel unwelcome and I acted like I was unwelcome.
Quote:“I think just walking away from situations is the best approach.” aka “as soon as things get hard I’m going to shut down and leave.” You say you “fight for what is right in your eyes” but ignore any evidence or facts shown to you if you consider that person your friend. Every time you have a staff app up, you try to act a little more proper, be a little more active, and seem a little friendlier. As soon as it’s denied or closed, a switch flips until the next staff app and the cycle repeats. I think you can be funny and I don’t have any personal issues with you, but you should not be in a position of power. If you had “grown”, we would have seen it by staff app 11.I think you are misinterpreting what I am saying. I'm not saying that I'm going to shut down and leave, I'm saying that I am just not going to get myself involved in situations that won't need my involvement or need my input. I never ignored any evidence, I was told by a friend I thought I could trust that a person was being a weirdo and when screenshots were shared they were taken out of context. The evidence was provided by an untrustworthy person who misrepresented the truth, and it's my bad to have believed that person. Generally you are going to have an inherent bias when a friend tells you something is happening with someone you have neutral or negative opinions about, it's human nature.
Everyone acts proper when applying for staff, why is that a negative towards me? 9/10 staff apps have people acting better than they normally would because it's generally good to have a better attitude or "act proper" when applying for a staff rank in an online community. This is just a thing everyone does lol.