(04-29-2024, 07:04 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote:

(04-29-2024, 07:36 AM)Chris Farley Wrote: I won’t comment much about the doc, but I think one of the biggest issues is that I know of very few that DO trust Tiefling as an admin. I have discussed this topic with several regulars and other staff members; even Prop Hunt staff. Outside of her friends, not one has told me they trust Tiefling. I have been told by multiple people that they believe she is too biased and incompetent to be staff, let alone admin. That she is untrustworthy and even her style of staffing is something to question. That she has burned several bridges and lacks the communication skills to repair any relationships within the community. I will say that a lot of this Google doc is irrelevant (a lot of it is relevant as well), but for me, the lack of trust by a huge margin of the community is something to look into.

I agree with this take on the situation. Some of this evidence does have merit and some does not, but the main issue is that rarely anyone trust Tiefling (including myself). I have tried to make friends with her in the past and I got told I was not genuine because I had just called her out on her Admin application. I am a very straightforward and blunt person so I told her while I do agree with my statements that I made, I am willing to put that all under the bridge and start fresh. These are just my personal experiences with Tiefling and I do agree that Tiefling lacks the communication skills to rebuild burnt bridges. Now, we could be on the server together and I will never get address by Tiefling unless she believes I am doing something wrong staff wise. I have had a couple cases where I had to explain myself to her even though nothing was wrong with the way I handled a report. I have no screenshots of this unfortunately so, before you ask take these statements with a grain of salt. I believe there are definitely things that need to be addressed with Tiefling, but some of the points in the document are irrelevant.

https://imgur.com/a/zIsykaG (here is the convo of me attempting to become friendly towards each other, as I said I am very straightforward and blunt, especially after she called me disingenuous)

(04-29-2024, 07:53 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote:

(04-29-2024, 07:42 PM)tiefling lesbian Wrote:

(04-29-2024, 07:04 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote: I have tried to make friends with her in the past and I got told I was not genuine because I had just called her out on her Admin application. I am a very straightforward and blunt person so I told her while I do agree with my statements that I made, I am willing to put that all under the bridge and start fresh. These are just my personal experiences with Tiefling and I do agree that Tiefling lacks the communication skills to rebuild burnt bridges.

I have no interest or obligation in being friends or "rebuilding burnt bridges" with someone who is constantly talking shit about me behind my back. These two messages happened 20 minutes apart.

(04-29-2024, 07:04 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote: Now, we could be on the server together and I will never get address by Tiefling unless she believes I am doing something wrong staff wise.

I have never ignored any staffing related inquiries, but as previously stated I do not owe you friendship. I keep neutral distance to avoid conflict and respond to anything staff related.

(04-29-2024, 07:04 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote: I have had a couple cases where I had to explain myself to her even though nothing was wrong with the way I handled a report. I have no screenshots of this unfortunately so, before you ask take these statements with a grain of salt.

I don't recall this happening, but I do recall you questioning and second guessing every warn I give while you're on that would be explained easily by taking 2 seconds to read chat or reports, ranging from rdm and leave to sexual harassment.

First off, I always talked shit to your face and in front of people on the forums. I don't gotta say shit behind your back cause I could care less about what you think. That has been made very apparent as I post my feelings about everything, rather than talk shit behind peoples back. Also, I don't say anything towards your staffing when we are both on so I do not know where that is coming from. Nobody said you owe me friendship, but did I expect maybe a cordial response and a potential to start new, maybe not resulting in friendship, but being able to be friendly towards each other, yes I did.

(04-29-2024, 08:07 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote:

(04-29-2024, 07:51 PM)HONG Wrote:

(04-29-2024, 07:42 PM)tiefling lesbian Wrote:

(04-29-2024, 07:04 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote: I have tried to make friends with her in the past and I got told I was not genuine because I had just called her out on her Admin application. I am a very straightforward and blunt person so I told her while I do agree with my statements that I made, I am willing to put that all under the bridge and start fresh. These are just my personal experiences with Tiefling and I do agree that Tiefling lacks the communication skills to rebuild burnt bridges.

I have no interest or obligation in being friends or "rebuilding burnt bridges" with someone who is constantly talking shit about me behind my back. These two messages happened 20 minutes apart.

This shits disgusting. From genuine misogyny to trying to "trying to make friends" is beyond gross, no wonder she doesn't interact with you when possible. 
Regardless, the reasoning behind the "trust issues" being cause for concern can be said for the entire admin team, public trust in TTT admins is at an all time low due to how divided the community is, not to mention the other reasons.

(04-29-2024, 08:01 PM)Hani Wrote:

(04-29-2024, 07:04 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote:

(04-29-2024, 07:36 AM)Chris Farley Wrote: I won’t comment much about the doc, but I think one of the biggest issues is that I know of very few that DO trust Tiefling as an admin. I have discussed this topic with several regulars and other staff members; even Prop Hunt staff. Outside of her friends, not one has told me they trust Tiefling. I have been told by multiple people that they believe she is too biased and incompetent to be staff, let alone admin. That she is untrustworthy and even her style of staffing is something to question. That she has burned several bridges and lacks the communication skills to repair any relationships within the community. I will say that a lot of this Google doc is irrelevant (a lot of it is relevant as well), but for me, the lack of trust by a huge margin of the community is something to look into.

I agree with this take on the situation. Some of this evidence does have merit and some does not, but the main issue is that rarely anyone trust Tiefling (including myself). I have tried to make friends with her in the past and I got told I was not genuine because I had just called her out on her Admin application. I am a very straightforward and blunt person so I told her while I do agree with my statements that I made, I am willing to put that all under the bridge and start fresh. These are just my personal experiences with Tiefling and I do agree that Tiefling lacks the communication skills to rebuild burnt bridges. Now, we could be on the server together and I will never get address by Tiefling unless she believes I am doing something wrong staff wise. I have had a couple cases where I had to explain myself to her even though nothing was wrong with the way I handled a report. I have no screenshots of this unfortunately so, before you ask take these statements with a grain of salt. I believe there are definitely things that need to be addressed with Tiefling, but some of the points in the document are irrelevant.

https://imgur.com/a/zIsykaG (here is the convo of me attempting to become friendly towards each other, as I said I am very straightforward and blunt, especially after she called me disingenuous)

(04-29-2024, 07:53 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote:

(04-29-2024, 07:42 PM)tiefling lesbian Wrote:

(04-29-2024, 07:04 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote: I have tried to make friends with her in the past and I got told I was not genuine because I had just called her out on her Admin application. I am a very straightforward and blunt person so I told her while I do agree with my statements that I made, I am willing to put that all under the bridge and start fresh. These are just my personal experiences with Tiefling and I do agree that Tiefling lacks the communication skills to rebuild burnt bridges.

I have no interest or obligation in being friends or "rebuilding burnt bridges" with someone who is constantly talking shit about me behind my back. These two messages happened 20 minutes apart.

(04-29-2024, 07:04 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote: Now, we could be on the server together and I will never get address by Tiefling unless she believes I am doing something wrong staff wise.

I have never ignored any staffing related inquiries, but as previously stated I do not owe you friendship. I keep neutral distance to avoid conflict and respond to anything staff related.

(04-29-2024, 07:04 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote: I have had a couple cases where I had to explain myself to her even though nothing was wrong with the way I handled a report. I have no screenshots of this unfortunately so, before you ask take these statements with a grain of salt.

I don't recall this happening, but I do recall you questioning and second guessing every warn I give while you're on that would be explained easily by taking 2 seconds to read chat or reports, ranging from rdm and leave to sexual harassment.

First off, I always talked shit to your face and in front of people on the forums. I don't gotta say shit behind your back cause I could care less about what you think. That has been made very apparent as I post my feelings about everything, rather than talk shit behind peoples back. Also, I don't say anything towards your staffing when we are both on so I do not know where that is coming from. Nobody said you owe me friendship, but did I expect maybe a cordial response and a potential to start new, maybe not resulting in friendship, but being able to be friendly towards each other, yes I did.

You should no longer be shocked why she got admin over you

So I am just curious. Why is there a double standard in play? Tiefling can say she "hates all men" but if I believe her being a female had something to do with her getting Admin I am in the wrong? Crazy how that works isn't it. I'll be straight up, yes I do believe that had a part to play with her getting Admin. I feel anyone who disagreed with her being Admin got hit with the 'it's cause she's a women right?' so how can you expect people not to believe that played a part. The double standard for the shit Tiefling can say but I can't is amazing. She is no better than I am, but her clique cannot see that obviously XD.

(04-29-2024, 07:53 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote:

(04-29-2024, 07:42 PM)tiefling lesbian Wrote:

(04-29-2024, 07:04 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote: I have tried to make friends with her in the past and I got told I was not genuine because I had just called her out on her Admin application. I am a very straightforward and blunt person so I told her while I do agree with my statements that I made, I am willing to put that all under the bridge and start fresh. These are just my personal experiences with Tiefling and I do agree that Tiefling lacks the communication skills to rebuild burnt bridges.

I have no interest or obligation in being friends or "rebuilding burnt bridges" with someone who is constantly talking shit about me behind my back. These two messages happened 20 minutes apart.

-snip-

First off, I always talked shit to your face and in front of people on the forums. I don't gotta say shit behind your back cause I could care less about what you think. That has been made very apparent as I post my feelings about everything, rather than talk shit behind peoples back. Also, I don't say anything towards your staffing when we are both on so I do not know where that is coming from. Nobody said you owe me friendship, but did I expect maybe a cordial response and a potential to start new, maybe not resulting in friendship, but being able to be friendly towards each other, yes I did.

(04-29-2024, 07:04 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote:

(04-29-2024, 07:36 AM)Chris Farley Wrote: I won’t comment much about the doc, but I think one of the biggest issues is that I know of very few that DO trust Tiefling as an admin. I have discussed this topic with several regulars and other staff members; even Prop Hunt staff. Outside of her friends, not one has told me they trust Tiefling. I have been told by multiple people that they believe she is too biased and incompetent to be staff, let alone admin. That she is untrustworthy and even her style of staffing is something to question. That she has burned several bridges and lacks the communication skills to repair any relationships within the community. I will say that a lot of this Google doc is irrelevant (a lot of it is relevant as well), but for me, the lack of trust by a huge margin of the community is something to look into.

I agree with this take on the situation. Some of this evidence does have merit and some does not, but the main issue is that rarely anyone trust Tiefling (including myself). I have tried to make friends with her in the past and I got told I was not genuine because I had just called her out on her Admin application. I am a very straightforward and blunt person so I told her while I do agree with my statements that I made, I am willing to put that all under the bridge and start fresh. These are just my personal experiences with Tiefling and I do agree that Tiefling lacks the communication skills to rebuild burnt bridges. Now, we could be on the server together and I will never get address by Tiefling unless she believes I am doing something wrong staff wise. I have had a couple cases where I had to explain myself to her even though nothing was wrong with the way I handled a report. I have no screenshots of this unfortunately so, before you ask take these statements with a grain of salt. I believe there are definitely things that need to be addressed with Tiefling, but some of the points in the document are irrelevant.

https://imgur.com/a/zIsykaG (here is the convo of me attempting to become friendly towards each other, as I said I am very straightforward and blunt, especially after she called me disingenuous)

(04-29-2024, 07:53 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote:

(04-29-2024, 07:42 PM)tiefling lesbian Wrote:

(04-29-2024, 07:04 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote: I have tried to make friends with her in the past and I got told I was not genuine because I had just called her out on her Admin application. I am a very straightforward and blunt person so I told her while I do agree with my statements that I made, I am willing to put that all under the bridge and start fresh. These are just my personal experiences with Tiefling and I do agree that Tiefling lacks the communication skills to rebuild burnt bridges.

I have no interest or obligation in being friends or "rebuilding burnt bridges" with someone who is constantly talking shit about me behind my back. These two messages happened 20 minutes apart.

(04-29-2024, 07:04 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote: Now, we could be on the server together and I will never get address by Tiefling unless she believes I am doing something wrong staff wise.

I have never ignored any staffing related inquiries, but as previously stated I do not owe you friendship. I keep neutral distance to avoid conflict and respond to anything staff related.

(04-29-2024, 07:04 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote: I have had a couple cases where I had to explain myself to her even though nothing was wrong with the way I handled a report. I have no screenshots of this unfortunately so, before you ask take these statements with a grain of salt.

I don't recall this happening, but I do recall you questioning and second guessing every warn I give while you're on that would be explained easily by taking 2 seconds to read chat or reports, ranging from rdm and leave to sexual harassment.

First off, I always talked shit to your face and in front of people on the forums. I don't gotta say shit behind your back cause I could care less about what you think. That has been made very apparent as I post my feelings about everything, rather than talk shit behind peoples back. Also, I don't say anything towards your staffing when we are both on so I do not know where that is coming from. Nobody said you owe me friendship, but did I expect maybe a cordial response and a potential to start new, maybe not resulting in friendship, but being able to be friendly towards each other, yes I did.

(04-29-2024, 08:07 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote:

(04-29-2024, 07:51 PM)HONG Wrote:

(04-29-2024, 07:42 PM)tiefling lesbian Wrote:

(04-29-2024, 07:04 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote: I have tried to make friends with her in the past and I got told I was not genuine because I had just called her out on her Admin application. I am a very straightforward and blunt person so I told her while I do agree with my statements that I made, I am willing to put that all under the bridge and start fresh. These are just my personal experiences with Tiefling and I do agree that Tiefling lacks the communication skills to rebuild burnt bridges.

I have no interest or obligation in being friends or "rebuilding burnt bridges" with someone who is constantly talking shit about me behind my back. These two messages happened 20 minutes apart.

This shits disgusting. From genuine misogyny to trying to "trying to make friends" is beyond gross, no wonder she doesn't interact with you when possible. 
Regardless, the reasoning behind the "trust issues" being cause for concern can be said for the entire admin team, public trust in TTT admins is at an all time low due to how divided the community is, not to mention the other reasons.

(04-29-2024, 08:01 PM)Hani Wrote:

(04-29-2024, 07:04 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote:

(04-29-2024, 07:36 AM)Chris Farley Wrote: I won’t comment much about the doc, but I think one of the biggest issues is that I know of very few that DO trust Tiefling as an admin. I have discussed this topic with several regulars and other staff members; even Prop Hunt staff. Outside of her friends, not one has told me they trust Tiefling. I have been told by multiple people that they believe she is too biased and incompetent to be staff, let alone admin. That she is untrustworthy and even her style of staffing is something to question. That she has burned several bridges and lacks the communication skills to repair any relationships within the community. I will say that a lot of this Google doc is irrelevant (a lot of it is relevant as well), but for me, the lack of trust by a huge margin of the community is something to look into.

I agree with this take on the situation. Some of this evidence does have merit and some does not, but the main issue is that rarely anyone trust Tiefling (including myself). I have tried to make friends with her in the past and I got told I was not genuine because I had just called her out on her Admin application. I am a very straightforward and blunt person so I told her while I do agree with my statements that I made, I am willing to put that all under the bridge and start fresh. These are just my personal experiences with Tiefling and I do agree that Tiefling lacks the communication skills to rebuild burnt bridges. Now, we could be on the server together and I will never get address by Tiefling unless she believes I am doing something wrong staff wise. I have had a couple cases where I had to explain myself to her even though nothing was wrong with the way I handled a report. I have no screenshots of this unfortunately so, before you ask take these statements with a grain of salt. I believe there are definitely things that need to be addressed with Tiefling, but some of the points in the document are irrelevant.
https://imgur.com/a/zIsykaG (here is the convo of me attempting to become friendly towards each other, as I said I am very straightforward and blunt, especially after she called me disingenuous)

(04-29-2024, 07:53 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote:

(04-29-2024, 07:42 PM)tiefling lesbian Wrote:

(04-29-2024, 07:04 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote: I have tried to make friends with her in the past and I got told I was not genuine because I had just called her out on her Admin application. I am a very straightforward and blunt person so I told her while I do agree with my statements that I made, I am willing to put that all under the bridge and start fresh. These are just my personal experiences with Tiefling and I do agree that Tiefling lacks the communication skills to rebuild burnt bridges.

I have no interest or obligation in being friends or "rebuilding burnt bridges" with someone who is constantly talking shit about me behind my back. These two messages happened 20 minutes apart.

(04-29-2024, 07:04 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote: Now, we could be on the server together and I will never get address by Tiefling unless she believes I am doing something wrong staff wise.

I have never ignored any staffing related inquiries, but as previously stated I do not owe you friendship. I keep neutral distance to avoid conflict and respond to anything staff related.

(04-29-2024, 07:04 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote: I have had a couple cases where I had to explain myself to her even though nothing was wrong with the way I handled a report. I have no screenshots of this unfortunately so, before you ask take these statements with a grain of salt.

I don't recall this happening, but I do recall you questioning and second guessing every warn I give while you're on that would be explained easily by taking 2 seconds to read chat or reports, ranging from rdm and leave to sexual harassment.

First off, I always talked shit to your face and in front of people on the forums. I don't gotta say shit behind your back cause I could care less about what you think. That has been made very apparent as I post my feelings about everything, rather than talk shit behind peoples back. Also, I don't say anything towards your staffing when we are both on so I do not know where that is coming from. Nobody said you owe me friendship, but did I expect maybe a cordial response and a potential to start new, maybe not resulting in friendship, but being able to be friendly towards each other, yes I did.

You should no longer be shocked why she got admin over you

So I am just curious. Why is there a double standard in play? Tiefling can say she "hates all men" but if I believe her being a female had something to do with her getting Admin I am in the wrong? Crazy how that works isn't it. I'll be straight up, yes I do believe that had a part to play with her getting Admin. I feel anyone who disagreed with her being Admin got hit with the 'it's cause she's a women right?' so how can you expect people not to believe that played a part. The double standard for the shit Tiefling can say but I can't is amazing. She is no better than I am, but her clique cannot see that obviously XD.

(04-29-2024, 05:11 PM)RussEfarmer Wrote: (i didnt read any of yalls replys and I do not want to type some mf shakespeare in here)

- staffing on multiple servers is fine imo although a little lame for high level staff
- conduct is a unprofessional and unhelpful for no real reason in regard to the "grasse alt" ban
- reaching out into other discords for bad player behavior falls into almost creepy levels of overstaffing, its a bad practice in most situations that does not provide much benefit to the player culture of dinks via finding rulebreakers in comparison to the detriment it causes to the experience of regular players in that discord
- The screenshots of tiefling making jokes in bad taste is pretty old, and while I personally would like to trust that tiefling has moved on from that as an admin, it does create an area of concern for me personally that she thought these things were acceptable to say recently (recently in the context of personal development)

That's all I know enough to comment on

In my opinion, mediocre admin practices? Yeah, but I've disliked other admins more. Worth a demotion? ehh... most of this stuff isn't that deep. Consider though that my perspective is different because I was not directly involved in any of this.

(04-29-2024, 08:23 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote:

(04-29-2024, 08:22 PM)bunniey Wrote: To further derail the thread by talking about skullfire

Homie, not a single person had you in mind for admin. Most were surprised you still had mod. Please take a step back before replying to anything here

I am just curious what I have done that is so bad of not deserving Mod? Don't worry I won't be applying for Admin ever again.