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RE: Silencing Marginalized Voices - bunniey - 10-27-2022 for the love of god all things good and holy please just please use -snip- its not that hard its 6 characters and doesnt include books of text in a response please im begging RE: Silencing Marginalized Voices - poop MANIAC(fecal frenzy!!!!!!!! - 10-27-2022 (10-27-2022, 08:08 PM)tiefling lesbian Wrote: yes, homophobes' and incels' voices do not matterRespectfully, I get the sinking feeling that you don't think what I have to say is very important... (10-27-2022, 07:37 PM)Ryan722 Wrote:I do not see how that is relevant but glad to hear from you anyway.(10-27-2022, 07:16 PM)Salty Wrote: some people understood the memo, others need to pull the stick out of their ass. (10-27-2022, 08:03 PM)Summer Wrote: Yes I agree. Everyone’s opinions do matter, but it’s better to keep them to yourselves because nobody but you care about them. But be warned, we addressed toxicity before and it made it even more toxic.I don't think running from the subject is a healthy way to deal with it. And sorry to be a contrarian, but, well, I think you're opinion matters :) RE: Silencing Marginalized Voices - tiefling lesbian - 10-27-2022 (10-27-2022, 08:15 PM)poop MANIAC(fecal frenzy!!!!!!!! Wrote: Respectfully, I get the sinking feeling that you don't think what I have to say is very important...no i don't think the """""marginalization""""" of people whose slurs get deleted is very important making the community a safe and comfortable space for people who are actually marginalized will always be more important than babying the poor bigots RE: Silencing Marginalized Voices - poop MANIAC(fecal frenzy!!!!!!!! - 10-27-2022 (10-27-2022, 08:29 PM)tiefling lesbian Wrote:Respectfully, I think this whole thing might be going a little over your head. While we can all agree it is of vital importance to protect the safety of marginalized people in our community from hate speech and other sorts of wrong words or thought patterns, I am suggesting we not only make a more solid commitment to transparency but also positive thinking. I think you are being terribly reductive and choosing not to understand the core of the issue. That is just my opinion though.(10-27-2022, 08:15 PM)poop MANIAC(fecal frenzy!!!!!!!! Wrote:no i don't think the """""marginalization""""" of people whose slurs get deleted is very important(10-27-2022, 08:08 PM)tiefling lesbian Wrote:Respectfully, I get the sinking feeling that you don't think what I have to say is very important...(10-27-2022, 07:37 PM)poop MANIAC(fecal frenzy!!!!!!!! Wrote:yes, homophobes' and incels' voices do not matter(10-27-2022, 05:43 PM)tiefling lesbian Wrote: nah i hate homophobes and incels and do not owe them patience, understanding, or politenessA salient point that brings us back to the opening statement! So you're saying that reducing the whole of an entire human being into one, easily digested, poignant label is how we determine whose voice do and do not matter? I think that's a good argument, and definitely should be considered. After all, when we reduce a person to their assigned labels is when we can most clearly draw the line between a good person with a good label, like gay, and a bad person with a bad label, like bigot. Through these identifying phrases we can easily identify who is someone deserving of compassion and respect and who is an un-person, one that we should meet with bile and bloodshed. After all, we know it to be true that very few people who have these sorts of labels are even human enough to engage in introspection! And you're right, why should we give those we can safely identify as un-persons our patience, understanding, or politeness? After all, what do we as individuals owe them? Should it really be our responsibility as decent human beings to do our best to generate positivity and uplift the people around us? That sounds like a lot of hard work, and I don't think ANY of us feel like doing it. You make a good point, and you are valid! RE: Silencing Marginalized Voices - tiefling lesbian - 10-27-2022 (10-27-2022, 08:40 PM)poop MANIAC(fecal frenzy!!!!!!!! Wrote:I understand the core of the "issue" just fine, it simply isn't an actual issue(10-27-2022, 08:29 PM)tiefling lesbian Wrote:Respectfully, I think this whole thing might be going a little over your head. While we can all agree it is of vital importance to protect the safety of marginalized people in our community from hate speech and other sorts of wrong words or thought patterns, I am suggesting we not only make a more solid commitment to transparency but also positive thinking. I think you are being terribly reductive and choosing not to understand the core of the issue. That is just my opinion though.(10-27-2022, 08:15 PM)poop MANIAC(fecal frenzy!!!!!!!! Wrote:no i don't think the """""marginalization""""" of people whose slurs get deleted is very important(10-27-2022, 08:08 PM)tiefling lesbian Wrote:Respectfully, I get the sinking feeling that you don't think what I have to say is very important...(10-27-2022, 07:37 PM)poop MANIAC(fecal frenzy!!!!!!!! Wrote: A salient point that brings us back to the opening statement! So you're saying that reducing the whole of an entire human being into one, easily digested, poignant label is how we determine whose voice do and do not matter? I think that's a good argument, and definitely should be considered. After all, when we reduce a person to their assigned labels is when we can most clearly draw the line between a good person with a good label, like gay, and a bad person with a bad label, like bigot. Through these identifying phrases we can easily identify who is someone deserving of compassion and respect and who is an un-person, one that we should meet with bile and bloodshed. After all, we know it to be true that very few people who have these sorts of labels are even human enough to engage in introspection! And you're right, why should we give those we can safely identify as un-persons our patience, understanding, or politeness? After all, what do we as individuals owe them? Should it really be our responsibility as decent human beings to do our best to generate positivity and uplift the people around us? That sounds like a lot of hard work, and I don't think ANY of us feel like doing it. You make a good point, and you are valid!yes, homophobes' and incels' voices do not matter RE: Silencing Marginalized Voices - happy - 10-27-2022 As a bi bipoc i wish we had more people that could articulate their thoughts like you poop maniac thank you for speaking out on this injustice RE: Silencing Marginalized Voices - poop MANIAC(fecal frenzy!!!!!!!! - 10-27-2022 (10-27-2022, 08:45 PM)tiefling lesbian Wrote:And you see, that's part of the issue right there. I think you're having a critical failure to empathize, and that's okay. What's not okay is invalidating someone's experiences based on your own preconceived notions. I don't think you're approaching this from a very healthy light, but I appreciate that you took the time to engage and make your voice heard. Thank you.(10-27-2022, 08:40 PM)poop MANIAC(fecal frenzy!!!!!!!! Wrote:I understand the core of the "issue" just fine, it simply isn't an actual issue(10-27-2022, 08:29 PM)tiefling lesbian Wrote:Respectfully, I think this whole thing might be going a little over your head. While we can all agree it is of vital importance to protect the safety of marginalized people in our community from hate speech and other sorts of wrong words or thought patterns, I am suggesting we not only make a more solid commitment to transparency but also positive thinking. I think you are being terribly reductive and choosing not to understand the core of the issue. That is just my opinion though.(10-27-2022, 08:15 PM)poop MANIAC(fecal frenzy!!!!!!!! Wrote:no i don't think the """""marginalization""""" of people whose slurs get deleted is very important(10-27-2022, 08:08 PM)tiefling lesbian Wrote: yes, homophobes' and incels' voices do not matterRespectfully, I get the sinking feeling that you don't think what I have to say is very important... (10-27-2022, 08:46 PM)happy Wrote: As a bi bipoc i wish we had more people that could articulate their thoughts like you poop maniac thank you for speaking out on this injusticeI'm happy I was able to resonate so well with you. I think it's something we can all do if we really commit! RE: Silencing Marginalized Voices - tiefling lesbian - 10-27-2022 (10-27-2022, 08:50 PM)poop MANIAC(fecal frenzy!!!!!!!! Wrote:no i do not empathize with bigots and yes it is okay to invalidate their experiences of being bigots(10-27-2022, 08:45 PM)tiefling lesbian Wrote:And you see, that's part of the issue right there. I think you're having a critical failure to empathize, and that's okay. What's not okay is invalidating someone's experiences based on your own preconceived notions. I don't think you're approaching this from a very healthy light, but I appreciate that you took the time to engage and make your voice heard. Thank you.(10-27-2022, 08:40 PM)poop MANIAC(fecal frenzy!!!!!!!! Wrote:I understand the core of the "issue" just fine, it simply isn't an actual issue(10-27-2022, 08:29 PM)tiefling lesbian Wrote:Respectfully, I think this whole thing might be going a little over your head. While we can all agree it is of vital importance to protect the safety of marginalized people in our community from hate speech and other sorts of wrong words or thought patterns, I am suggesting we not only make a more solid commitment to transparency but also positive thinking. I think you are being terribly reductive and choosing not to understand the core of the issue. That is just my opinion though.(10-27-2022, 08:15 PM)poop MANIAC(fecal frenzy!!!!!!!! Wrote: Respectfully, I get the sinking feeling that you don't think what I have to say is very important...no i don't think the """""marginalization""""" of people whose slurs get deleted is very important RE: Silencing Marginalized Voices - poop MANIAC(fecal frenzy!!!!!!!! - 10-27-2022 (10-27-2022, 08:52 PM)tiefling lesbian Wrote:I don't think you understand. You don't have to empathize with un-persons, but I don't think its fair for you to invalidate my experiences and feelings empathizing with un-persons myself. You see, you might not realize this but behind every computer screen is a real human being, someone with real thoughts and real emotions, and although we may rightfully despise those human beings with equal parts venom and vigor, and commit our attention to loathing them as much as we can, I think we shouldn't shut down other people for wanting to be friends. Because after all, friendship is magic.(10-27-2022, 08:50 PM)poop MANIAC(fecal frenzy!!!!!!!! Wrote:no i do not empathize with bigots and yes it is okay to invalidate their experiences of being bigots(10-27-2022, 08:45 PM)tiefling lesbian Wrote:And you see, that's part of the issue right there. I think you're having a critical failure to empathize, and that's okay. What's not okay is invalidating someone's experiences based on your own preconceived notions. I don't think you're approaching this from a very healthy light, but I appreciate that you took the time to engage and make your voice heard. Thank you.(10-27-2022, 08:40 PM)poop MANIAC(fecal frenzy!!!!!!!! Wrote:I understand the core of the "issue" just fine, it simply isn't an actual issue(10-27-2022, 08:29 PM)tiefling lesbian Wrote: no i don't think the """""marginalization""""" of people whose slurs get deleted is very importantRespectfully, I think this whole thing might be going a little over your head. While we can all agree it is of vital importance to protect the safety of marginalized people in our community from hate speech and other sorts of wrong words or thought patterns, I am suggesting we not only make a more solid commitment to transparency but also positive thinking. I think you are being terribly reductive and choosing not to understand the core of the issue. That is just my opinion though. RE: Silencing Marginalized Voices - tiefling lesbian - 10-27-2022 (10-27-2022, 08:57 PM)poop MANIAC(fecal frenzy!!!!!!!! Wrote:if those thoughts are "women and minorities should be harassed" then no i do not care about their thoughts and emotions and yes they should be shut down(10-27-2022, 08:52 PM)tiefling lesbian Wrote:I don't think you understand. You don't have to empathize with un-persons, but I don't think its fair for you to invalidate my experiences and feelings empathizing with un-persons myself. You see, you might not realize this but behind every computer screen is a real human being, someone with real thoughts and real emotions, and although we may rightfully despise those human beings with equal parts venom and vigor, and commit our attention to loathing them as much as we can, I think we shouldn't shut down other people for wanting to be friends. Because after all, friendship is magic.(10-27-2022, 08:50 PM)poop MANIAC(fecal frenzy!!!!!!!! Wrote:no i do not empathize with bigots and yes it is okay to invalidate their experiences of being bigots(10-27-2022, 08:45 PM)tiefling lesbian Wrote:And you see, that's part of the issue right there. I think you're having a critical failure to empathize, and that's okay. What's not okay is invalidating someone's experiences based on your own preconceived notions. I don't think you're approaching this from a very healthy light, but I appreciate that you took the time to engage and make your voice heard. Thank you.(10-27-2022, 08:40 PM)poop MANIAC(fecal frenzy!!!!!!!! Wrote: Respectfully, I think this whole thing might be going a little over your head. While we can all agree it is of vital importance to protect the safety of marginalized people in our community from hate speech and other sorts of wrong words or thought patterns, I am suggesting we not only make a more solid commitment to transparency but also positive thinking. I think you are being terribly reductive and choosing not to understand the core of the issue. That is just my opinion though.I understand the core of the "issue" just fine, it simply isn't an actual issue |