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RDM Question/Scenario - ReThink - 06-28-2018

I have a question about a specific scenario that occurred regarding what is considered RDM-

Events In Chronological Order:


  1. Player A witnesses Player B walk in front of a T turret that was placed ~2 seconds prior and not be shot (turret was not firing at anyone else)
  2. Player A follows Player B without calling a KOS, as player A wants the kill credit and the T is in a crowded hallway, so as not to instill mass confusion.
  3. Player A shoots and almost kills player B without calling them out as a T, however the T does NOT use any communication whatsoever to indicate the inno (player A) is a T to get them out of the situation. (essentially, neither player communicates to inform the rest of the players who is who)
  4. Player C, who witnesses only two people shooting at one another, decides to shoot player A
  5. Player A damages player C, as they have jumped in the way of the line of sight to player B and are a current threat to player A.
  6. Player C and player B both shoot and damage player A
  7. Player C kills player A, revealing A to be an inno (player C is also an inno)
@"Lycan" States that this is not RDM on player C's behalf, as it was not called out that player B was a T. I do not see a requirement to call out a T to avoid having yourself killed in the rules.
How is this not RDM? Player C has no knowledge of who is a T, and is randomly picking a player to shoot and kill, completely guessing instead of waiting to see who kills the other and ID's the body, at which point it would then be appropriate to kill if the dead person was an inno.

However, player C did not wait, randomly interrupted the fight with no evidence against either player A or B, and killed without reason.

The only rule that could remotely justify this is "reasons to KOS (9)" " Damaging Innocents for a reason not stated above ", however player C had no idea who was innocent and who was T, so therefore this rule does not apply.

As a result, player C was not slain and player A was killed without a valid reason as per the rules.

My question is this: Is @"Lycan"'s evaluation correct? How is this not RDM? player C RANDOMLY DEATHMATCHED one of the two fighting players without knowing who was who.

Please do not respond if you are not staff or former staff, this situation is regarding server rules and not personal opinions.

RE: RDM Question/Scenario - ExiledShadows - 06-28-2018

There's no getting around the fact that Player C killed an innocent even if his motives were good. That's RDM. I hope that answers your question.

RE: RDM Question/Scenario - matt_st3 (Strongrule) - 06-28-2018

He's correct Assuming that C saw the shooting start

RE: RDM Question/Scenario - ExiledShadows - 06-28-2018

(06-28-2018, 06:05 PM)matt_st3 (Strongrule) Wrote: He's correct

Who's correct? Lycan or yours truly?

RE: RDM Question/Scenario - DC.Zephyr - 06-28-2018

Player C should not have partaken in a firefight where neither was kos'ed.
As neither kos'ed the other, Player C should not have interfered.

RE: RDM Question/Scenario - Foxka - 06-28-2018

If C saw A start shooting B then it's not RDM for C to shoot A.

But only if C saw the start of the fight and who shot the first shots, as A did not kos B.