(08-29-2019, 05:05 PM)dong Wrote: I’ve held my tongue for far too long on this shitutation. You don’t feel right exposing people who were included in the evidence that the public hasn’t seen, yet you’re more than comfortable linking screenshots of conversations that were held in a private discord. If you all got rid of your “problem” why not go ahead and reveal these screenshots and further evidence to back your punishments? The “harassers” are gone now, you have nothing to fear. What are they gonna do? Pm them on discord and ask why they said that? Or blow up on them? Either way it has no effect on the server. You have no reason to withhold from showing US, the community, the full evidence. This isn’t a damn court case for pete’s sake. And whoever said I shouldn’t be staff i don’t give a flying shit about who it is, won’t pounce on them, would just like to know who and take into consideration as to why they might not like me. I’m honestly surprised you all didn’t ban me, TDawg shouldn’t have been banned, and since he did there was no reason to not ban me. Bottom line is you all lost very very valuable members of this community, and I hope you realize that. Even if they were in the party of those who got banned, or resigned staff members. You all legitimately fucked up. I’m glad you somewhat realize that.

Anything you plan on posting to further explain your reasoning will also be no help. You should’ve done it to begin with. You should have at least gave a warning and demotion to most of the people who were involved. A flat out permanent community ban is outright stupid. I’m sick and tired of people trying to rationalize their fuck-ups when they’re missing the complete point that was being made by people who were against their decision.

That ends my rant, I don’t care anymore. The damage is done. Hope this community continues to go on, but for me I’m done. The love I once had is no longer there. I can’t even bare to check the forums anymore. You all wiped out mostly everything that was good, hope you realize that. Have a good day

(08-29-2019, 05:30 PM)killerZoreo Wrote:

(08-29-2019, 05:05 PM)dong Wrote: I’ve held my tongue for far too long on this shitutation. You don’t feel right exposing people who were included in the evidence that the public hasn’t seen, yet you’re more than comfortable linking screenshots of conversations that were held in a private discord. If you all got rid of your “problem” why not go ahead and reveal these screenshots and further evidence to back your punishments? The “harassers” are gone now, you have nothing to fear. What are they gonna do? Pm them on discord and ask why they said that? Or blow up on them? Either way it has no effect on the server. You have no reason to withhold from showing US, the community, the full evidence. This isn’t a damn court case for pete’s sake. And whoever said I shouldn’t be staff i don’t give a flying shit about who it is, won’t pounce on them, would just like to know who and take into consideration as to why they might not like me. I’m honestly surprised you all didn’t ban me, TDawg shouldn’t have been banned, and since he did there was no reason to not ban me. Bottom line is you all lost very very valuable members of this community, and I hope you realize that. Even if they were in the party of those who got banned, or resigned staff members. You all legitimately fucked up. I’m glad you somewhat realize that.

Anything you plan on posting to further explain your reasoning will also be no help. You should’ve done it to begin with. You should have at least gave a warning and demotion to most of the people who were involved. A flat out permanent community ban is outright stupid. I’m sick and tired of people trying to rationalize their fuck-ups when they’re missing the complete point that was being made by people who were against their decision.

That ends my rant, I don’t care anymore. The damage is done. Hope this community continues to go on, but for me I’m done. The love I once had is no longer there. I can’t even bare to check the forums anymore. You all wiped out mostly everything that was good, hope you realize that. Have a good day

With the pitchforks and torches everyone in the forums came at the admins with, do you rally blame them for not supplying the full evidence? Yes the "harassers" are gone, but the community (me included in this btw) has shown that we all have the ability to get toxic and go after people. I'm not saying that those people who were harassed would be lynched by the community, but they would probably still have problems with other players.

(08-29-2019, 05:30 PM)killerZoreo Wrote:

(08-29-2019, 05:05 PM)dong Wrote: I’ve held my tongue for far too long on this shitutation. You don’t feel right exposing people who were included in the evidence that the public hasn’t seen, yet you’re more than comfortable linking screenshots of conversations that were held in a private discord. If you all got rid of your “problem” why not go ahead and reveal these screenshots and further evidence to back your punishments? The “harassers” are gone now, you have nothing to fear. What are they gonna do? Pm them on discord and ask why they said that? Or blow up on them? Either way it has no effect on the server. You have no reason to withhold from showing US, the community, the full evidence. This isn’t a damn court case for pete’s sake. And whoever said I shouldn’t be staff i don’t give a flying shit about who it is, won’t pounce on them, would just like to know who and take into consideration as to why they might not like me. I’m honestly surprised you all didn’t ban me, TDawg shouldn’t have been banned, and since he did there was no reason to not ban me. Bottom line is you all lost very very valuable members of this community, and I hope you realize that. Even if they were in the party of those who got banned, or resigned staff members. You all legitimately fucked up. I’m glad you somewhat realize that.

Anything you plan on posting to further explain your reasoning will also be no help. You should’ve done it to begin with. You should have at least gave a warning and demotion to most of the people who were involved. A flat out permanent community ban is outright stupid. I’m sick and tired of people trying to rationalize their fuck-ups when they’re missing the complete point that was being made by people who were against their decision.

That ends my rant, I don’t care anymore. The damage is done. Hope this community continues to go on, but for me I’m done. The love I once had is no longer there. I can’t even bare to check the forums anymore. You all wiped out mostly everything that was good, hope you realize that. Have a good day

With the pitchforks and torches everyone in the forums came at the admins with, do you rally blame them for not supplying the full evidence? Yes the "harassers" are gone, but the community (me included in this btw) has shown that we all have the ability to get toxic and go after people. I'm not saying that those people who were harassed would be lynched by the community, but they would probably still have problems with other players.

(08-29-2019, 05:30 PM)killerZoreo Wrote:

(08-29-2019, 05:05 PM)dong Wrote: I’ve held my tongue for far too long on this shitutation. You don’t feel right exposing people who were included in the evidence that the public hasn’t seen, yet you’re more than comfortable linking screenshots of conversations that were held in a private discord. If you all got rid of your “problem” why not go ahead and reveal these screenshots and further evidence to back your punishments? The “harassers” are gone now, you have nothing to fear. What are they gonna do? Pm them on discord and ask why they said that? Or blow up on them? Either way it has no effect on the server. You have no reason to withhold from showing US, the community, the full evidence. This isn’t a damn court case for pete’s sake. And whoever said I shouldn’t be staff i don’t give a flying shit about who it is, won’t pounce on them, would just like to know who and take into consideration as to why they might not like me. I’m honestly surprised you all didn’t ban me, TDawg shouldn’t have been banned, and since he did there was no reason to not ban me. Bottom line is you all lost very very valuable members of this community, and I hope you realize that. Even if they were in the party of those who got banned, or resigned staff members. You all legitimately fucked up. I’m glad you somewhat realize that.

Anything you plan on posting to further explain your reasoning will also be no help. You should’ve done it to begin with. You should have at least gave a warning and demotion to most of the people who were involved. A flat out permanent community ban is outright stupid. I’m sick and tired of people trying to rationalize their fuck-ups when they’re missing the complete point that was being made by people who were against their decision.

That ends my rant, I don’t care anymore. The damage is done. Hope this community continues to go on, but for me I’m done. The love I once had is no longer there. I can’t even bare to check the forums anymore. You all wiped out mostly everything that was good, hope you realize that. Have a good day

With the pitchforks and torches everyone in the forums came at the admins with, do you rally blame them for not supplying the full evidence? Yes the "harassers" are gone, but the community (me included in this btw) has shown that we all have the ability to get toxic and go after people. I'm not saying that those people who were harassed would be lynched by the community, but they would probably still have problems with other players.

(08-29-2019, 05:42 PM)Seeker Wrote:

(08-29-2019, 05:30 PM)killerZoreo Wrote:

(08-29-2019, 05:05 PM)dong Wrote: I’ve held my tongue for far too long on this shitutation. You don’t feel right exposing people who were included in the evidence that the public hasn’t seen, yet you’re more than comfortable linking screenshots of conversations that were held in a private discord. If you all got rid of your “problem” why not go ahead and reveal these screenshots and further evidence to back your punishments? The “harassers” are gone now, you have nothing to fear. What are they gonna do? Pm them on discord and ask why they said that? Or blow up on them? Either way it has no effect on the server. You have no reason to withhold from showing US, the community, the full evidence. This isn’t a damn court case for pete’s sake. And whoever said I shouldn’t be staff i don’t give a flying shit about who it is, won’t pounce on them, would just like to know who and take into consideration as to why they might not like me. I’m honestly surprised you all didn’t ban me, TDawg shouldn’t have been banned, and since he did there was no reason to not ban me. Bottom line is you all lost very very valuable members of this community, and I hope you realize that. Even if they were in the party of those who got banned, or resigned staff members. You all legitimately fucked up. I’m glad you somewhat realize that.

Anything you plan on posting to further explain your reasoning will also be no help. You should’ve done it to begin with. You should have at least gave a warning and demotion to most of the people who were involved. A flat out permanent community ban is outright stupid. I’m sick and tired of people trying to rationalize their fuck-ups when they’re missing the complete point that was being made by people who were against their decision.

That ends my rant, I don’t care anymore. The damage is done. Hope this community continues to go on, but for me I’m done. The love I once had is no longer there. I can’t even bare to check the forums anymore. You all wiped out mostly everything that was good, hope you realize that. Have a good day

With the pitchforks and torches everyone in the forums came at the admins with, do you rally blame them for not supplying the full evidence? Yes the "harassers" are gone, but the community (me included in this btw) has shown that we all have the ability to get toxic and go after people. I'm not saying that those people who were harassed would be lynched by the community, but they would probably still have problems with other players.

With the threat of being banned for what looks like little to no evidence, even so much as having a different opinion in private among some friends and popular/well liked staff resigning in droves and leaving along with players, there's almost nothing to lose at this point. And with some actually taking the advice to "go and make your own server," why shouldn't some of these guys come "REEEING out of the swamp" demanding answers?

I'm not saying it's right, but I mean what did they expect?

And then, there's this back pedal.

(08-29-2019, 06:24 PM)happy Wrote:

(08-29-2019, 05:42 PM)Seeker Wrote:

(08-29-2019, 05:30 PM)killerZoreo Wrote:

(08-29-2019, 05:05 PM)dong Wrote: I’ve held my tongue for far too long on this shitutation. You don’t feel right exposing people who were included in the evidence that the public hasn’t seen, yet you’re more than comfortable linking screenshots of conversations that were held in a private discord. If you all got rid of your “problem” why not go ahead and reveal these screenshots and further evidence to back your punishments? The “harassers” are gone now, you have nothing to fear. What are they gonna do? Pm them on discord and ask why they said that? Or blow up on them? Either way it has no effect on the server. You have no reason to withhold from showing US, the community, the full evidence. This isn’t a damn court case for pete’s sake. And whoever said I shouldn’t be staff i don’t give a flying shit about who it is, won’t pounce on them, would just like to know who and take into consideration as to why they might not like me. I’m honestly surprised you all didn’t ban me, TDawg shouldn’t have been banned, and since he did there was no reason to not ban me. Bottom line is you all lost very very valuable members of this community, and I hope you realize that. Even if they were in the party of those who got banned, or resigned staff members. You all legitimately fucked up. I’m glad you somewhat realize that.

Anything you plan on posting to further explain your reasoning will also be no help. You should’ve done it to begin with. You should have at least gave a warning and demotion to most of the people who were involved. A flat out permanent community ban is outright stupid. I’m sick and tired of people trying to rationalize their fuck-ups when they’re missing the complete point that was being made by people who were against their decision.

That ends my rant, I don’t care anymore. The damage is done. Hope this community continues to go on, but for me I’m done. The love I once had is no longer there. I can’t even bare to check the forums anymore. You all wiped out mostly everything that was good, hope you realize that. Have a good day

With the pitchforks and torches everyone in the forums came at the admins with, do you rally blame them for not supplying the full evidence? Yes the "harassers" are gone, but the community (me included in this btw) has shown that we all have the ability to get toxic and go after people. I'm not saying that those people who were harassed would be lynched by the community, but they would probably still have problems with other players.

With the threat of being banned for what looks like little to no evidence, even so much as having a different opinion in private among some friends and popular/well liked staff resigning in droves and leaving along with players, there's almost nothing to lose at this point. And with some actually taking the advice to "go and make your own server," why shouldn't some of these guys come "REEEING out of the swamp" demanding answers?

I'm not saying it's right, but I mean what did they expect?

And then, there's this back pedal.

To my understanding people were already throwing around the idea of making their own server even before people were banned. One of the screenshots shown was wild saying he would steal staff from here if someone did. (whoever it was was never shown)