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RE: caribou unban - cameron - 03-31-2024
Just a general bit of life advice not necessarily related to this situation. It's okay to take criticism and it's also okay to make counter points in a calm and concise manner. You're doing neither in this appeal, and I promise you it will not help your case. Every time somebody has called you out on this thread and you replied, you give off the impression that you're backed into a corner and trying to fight off a group of attackers. You're also flip-flopping your statements which is only going to lead to more confusion. In one post, you say that you don't pay attention to game chats and listen to music:
Quote:like I said in my post I have music BLASTING most of the time. I could care less about your clips cause you do not know what I am doing on my screen. I barely listen to in-game chats when I am alive unless there is an issue I need to attend to.
And then, when Gabe made a comment about that potentially leading to gaps in your situation awareness and cause you to mishandle issues, you jumped down their throat about not being expected to be at your PC 24/7 and stating that you don't get paid and it's not a job. You're right, it's not a job but it's what you signed up for and being aware of what is going on in the game is part of the role.
A harassment ban issued by the staff member feeling harassed is wild. You're naturally going to be biased against caribou because you're acting on emotion. The better way to handle this would be to present your evidence, statements, witnesses, etc. to someone above you or (if that isn't an immediate option) a neutral third party and allow them to make the decision/offer suggestions.
RE: caribou unban - reina - 03-31-2024
(03-31-2024, 07:36 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote:(03-31-2024, 07:19 PM)reina Wrote:(03-31-2024, 06:37 PM)bunniey Wrote: Just to be clear, he got direct permission from an admin, and multiple staff agreed.
unless i'm misunderstanding what i'm reading, it looks like skullfire only received admin permission to issue a warn for trolling/flaming, not for harassment.
Want to know something crazy to me? You were so quick to defend Coco when she was getting harassed and were more than willing to see her harasser banned and called out anyone who may have said something against coco (even if it wasn't bad) but since I was the one getting harassed its not an issue. Just want to point that out because it just makes me sad how there is a difference depending on who gets harassed.
what's crazy to me is how disrespectful you're being to an admin in response to them making an unbiased observation on an appeal for a punishment you issued. you need to conduct yourself more appropriately on this thread.
RE: caribou unban - bunniey - 03-31-2024
(03-31-2024, 07:24 PM)chibill Wrote:(03-31-2024, 07:19 PM)reina Wrote:(03-31-2024, 06:37 PM)bunniey Wrote: Just to be clear, he got direct permission from an admin, and multiple staff agreed.
unless i'm misunderstanding what i'm reading, it looks like skullfire only received admin permission to issue a warn for trolling/flaming, not for harassment.
Going to chime in here, from my understanding, it was less direct permission / saying give either of the warns warn and more of a, yes, this warn is fine but if the situation requires the higher warn go a head and give the warn.
Making it sound like an admin directly said to give this warn instead of a trolling / flaming is showing the admin in bad faith.
Oh, I must have misunderstood what I read, my bad on that part.
RE: caribou unban - Gabe - 03-31-2024
(03-31-2024, 07:36 PM)(DEMON)Skullfire Wrote:This literally has nothing to do with the topic at hand and sounds like you are trying to deflect whenever someone brings up a mild criticism or observations. (like here). Honestly pretty crazy to me that you would try to equate these two situations and go after Reina for something completely unrelated, it is disrespectful. Also, this is not even what happened... Please keep the thread on topic and do not attack people for making their opinion or observation known. That, arguably, can be considered a form of harassment as well.(03-31-2024, 07:19 PM)reina Wrote:(03-31-2024, 06:37 PM)bunniey Wrote: Just to be clear, he got direct permission from an admin, and multiple staff agreed.
unless i'm misunderstanding what i'm reading, it looks like skullfire only received admin permission to issue a warn for trolling/flaming, not for harassment.
Want to know something crazy to me? You were so quick to defend Coco when she was getting harassed and were more than willing to see her harasser banned and called out anyone who may have said something against coco (even if it wasn't bad) but since I was the one getting harassed its not an issue. Just want to point that out because it just makes me sad how there is a difference depending on who gets harassed.
RE: caribou unban - chibill - 03-31-2024
OKAY THATS ENOUGH!
If anyone has a issue with Skullfire that can be considered abuse then make a Staff Abuse thread with evidence.
As for this, since to put it kindly, its turning into a f'in shit show. I am locking this thread until the TTT admin team can decide what to do with it. I am highly disappointed in the actions of multiple people on this thread.
As a reminder, ban appeals are to APPEAL A BAN, NOT to go after the banning staff and NOT for the banning staff to go after people that support the unban or the person making the appeal.
RE: caribou unban - icey - 04-02-2024
Caribou,
Your appeal has been denied and the warning will be kept. Please refrain from harassing other players that you don't like, directly or indirectly.
As for Skullfire, the admin team will discuss and administer a punishment fitting for his behavior.
both of you go ahead and write "i will be nice to other people" 100 times for me.