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RE: as admin, i pledge to !ungag otis - Damien1579 - 01-10-2024 Since I was directly mentioned in a poorly made attempt at a dinkle conspiracy I guess I'll bite. I'll reply to each section to the best of my ability. Section 1 If you don't want to get rdmed and you get rdmed, you make a report. If someone does something you don't like you're allowed to dislike what they do, and if you someone reports it to someone it'll get handled! This isn't a new concept in any game, especially a gmod community server. I do beatbox sometimes on the server and when people tell me it's annoying or to stop, I stop. Very comparable to moaning on the microphone in a sexual manor when there could be minors on the server obviously /s. If this was a big server issue I would've gotten a message directly to cease beatboxing all together from an admin (which obviously hasn't happened). Section 2 Nobody is being a "keyboard warrior" for tiefling at all and it's really disingenuous to label everyone disagreeing with you on an internet forum as such. If anyone would like to say their grievances about tiefling without "being a target" just message one of the admins discreetly on discord since that's the easiest way to reach them. That "being a target" line screams cry wolf to me because a lot of people in this community just disagree with things people say. Section 3 If you don't break a rule, the staff team won't punish you! A wild concept right? Reviving an inno is Teaming if no-one reports and tiefling made a mistake like any human would. Staff are not emotionless robots who methodically calculate everything in an instant and make no imperfections, they're humans like everyone else who are imperfect. It's wild that I even have to say this lmao. Even your favorite staff members make mistakes (like lacer, fuck that guy). Section 4 In my humble opinion, tiefling does a fantastic job of understanding where people come from on most situations. She isn't supposed to make peace with anyone who isn't civil with her, she's allowed to dislike anyone she wants to as long as it does not impact her ability to staff in an unbiased manner. If she doesn't want to interact with anyone outside of giving them warns she is also allowed to. A cashier at McDonald's is allowed to serve a customer a diabetes inducing meal without interacting with them so why aren't we extending the same courtesy to a staff member in a video game community in a video game from 2006? Section 5 I feel like a big portion of tiefling's opposition have a clear bias on why they don't feel comfortable with her staffing. She doesn't take shit from anyone and isn't edgy which is a bad clash for a garry's mod server considering the community garry's mod has, but I'd rather the community behave and not say things they wouldn't say at work or at a school at least publicly. Keep your edgy shit to yourselves and your private discords, and at the end of the day remember that this is a game where you shoot traitors. We don't need this petty bs. RE: as admin, i pledge to !ungag otis - lacer - 01-10-2024 (01-10-2024, 01:51 AM)Unhinged Widdy Wrote: snip so i dont clog the page upcorrelation =! causation, them being friends did not cause them to downvote your post. Your post is full of extremely biased commentary and you straight up lied about a warn you got that had no reason to be talked about in the thread anyways also labelling people that disagree with you as a keyboard warrior for tiefling is a horrible generalization my man RE: as admin, i pledge to !ungag otis - Wende - 01-10-2024 RE: as admin, i pledge to !ungag otis - Unhinged Widdy - 01-10-2024 (01-10-2024, 02:56 AM)Wende Wrote: PictureOk that shit was pretty funny, give this girl a raise asap! RE: as admin, i pledge to !ungag otis - tiefling lesbian - 01-10-2024 For the sake of brevity in an already long thread, I'll do my best to avoid points that others have already addressed (cult behavior fr) and ignore the senseless fearmongering. (01-09-2024, 11:59 PM)Unhinged Widdy Wrote:Holding a non-explosive barrel near someone is, objectively speaking, not t-baiting. I've never reported anyone for holding a barrel near me, and anyone I've reported for prop rdming me is dealt with by whatever other staff is on. If I accidentally kill someone with a prop who I don't know was okay with it, I do my best to inform them and ask them if they want me slain. If someone reports someone else for prop rdm, I will handle the report like any other report. As I've said previously, I have in fact warned Damien for mic spam before. When Damien gets told to stop doing something, he stops doing it and it's no longer an issue. When someone else gets warned for something, he doesn't proceed to do the thing they got warned for. If he did, it would be handled the same as anyone else, and if you feel this is not the case then I urge you to contact an admin about it or make an abuse report with evidence. (01-09-2024, 11:59 PM)Unhinged Widdy Wrote:If I'm having a bad day, the last thing I'm doing is getting on TTT to get harassed and deal with this sort of shit flinging. If people break the rules, they get warned, that's just how it is. I don't control the rate at which ttt players break the rules. The example you used is extremely ironic, considering I like both Nash and Otis, which directly contradicts your accusations of bias. I specifically double checked the staff guidelines to make sure that it didn't fall under the lower point moderate teaming warn. Which, to remind you, killing traitors after being defibbed by one as an innocent is not the same as simply defibbing an inno and killing them at the end of the round. If I were biased, I could have easily ignored the guidelines and given players that I liked a lower point warn or not warned them at all. (01-09-2024, 11:59 PM)Unhinged Widdy Wrote:I will gladly resolve any staffing related issues brought to me regardless of who it's from, but on a personal level, I am absolutely under no obligation whatsoever to go out of my way to make personal amends with someone who has repeatedly harassed me and spread misinformation about me. RE: as admin, i pledge to !ungag otis - murl - 01-10-2024 Tiefling has made great strides since her first trusted app. She was receptive of feedback throughout all of her past threads and has ended up being a great above okay moderator since. I have to call out people for having issues with Tiefling not using a mic. I know there's only a handful of comments here about it, but it has been brought up elsewhere so I believe it's still a point of contention here. Yeah, having voice chat is helpful for TTT gameplay, but I can't come up with a solid justification that requires it to perform admin duties. Also, everyone here has surely experienced women receiving a disproportionate amount of harassment online over voice chat, so it's understandable if they don't want to use it. If you haven't, you are either not paying attention or you're probably one of the dudes screaming "girl!" in vc when they start talking (which is so funny and cool btw!). Lastly, this point doesn't even hold value to it as we've had admins in the past rarely ever use voicechat while still being great staff. The more I think about it, the stranger of an expectation it becomes - why does it matter to you so much if you can hear them talk? Also, people keep mentioning "bias" followed by their own personal negative experiences with her without helpful context. So far, I haven't seen any irrefutable evidence that she poorly staffed with bad intentions. If you truly are having poor interactions with a staff member, there's not really an excuse in 2024 to not take clips and post them here. If this is happening, we want to see legitimate examples, not petty vagueposting. On the actual admin role: in the few conversations I've recently had with her, it's clear she has somewhat of a roadmap of ideas in her head for improving the server. She's had consistently good judgement when +1ing staff apps, so I really can't see a problem with her doing the approving. On dev stuff - as a believer of separation of admin + dev roles, I don't think it's a huge deal if you're lacking in that area, and it can be learned. +1 RE: as admin, i pledge to !ungag otis - Foxka - 01-10-2024 Guys I'm only friends with tiefling on discord can I still be in the cult :( RE: as admin, i pledge to !ungag otis - Unhinged Widdy - 01-10-2024 (01-10-2024, 07:54 AM)Foxka Wrote: Guys I'm only friends with tiefling on discord can I still be in the cult :(Yea but you gotta door dash me a McGriddle, I will explain the importance of it later. (I am hungry) (01-10-2024, 07:54 AM)Murl Wrote: The thing about the microphone, this is a paraphrase. Because formatting on this website is a nightmare.I know where you are coming from. When you say that it is pretty bizarre that people want a staff to use a voice chat when they can use text chat. the reason that I believe that it should be pretty mandatory is the fact that when there is a lot going on in the server, sometimes people will miss things in the chat. when something is said through a microphone. It's way harder to miss, especially when it's something urgent like a verbal warn. For players that have visual impairments, this is also very helpful. Especially when chat messages are flying left and right and they can't keep up. RE: as admin, i pledge to !ungag otis - cow - 01-10-2024 +1 if visual impairments are too bad to read how do they even play lmfao (these "reasonings" scream pick me) in other words: goo goo ga ga RE: as admin, i pledge to !ungag otis - A Steel Waffle - 01-10-2024 (01-10-2024, 12:58 AM)Viviel No-Bones (they) Wrote:No, I legitimately wasn't but if you insist on me speaking me correct English I will do just that.(01-09-2024, 10:53 PM)A Steel Waffle Wrote: 1st off maybe I am picking sides but I am against you being staff in the 1st place. Maybe I am not used to it but you show not even the slightest reasoning to anyone decision and that the issue I have you have investigated things without logically thinking I still remember the HELP! HELP! HELP! I refuse to believe that was donor abuse mainly because I gave them many a warning's and they kept evading the gags. I am being honest when I say I cannot knowingly agree to this because even when I pmed you about letting bygones go you had no response. (Yes, this may be biased however if you can't treat everyone equally then you don't need admin let alone moderator). I know for a fact you pick and choose what you want to allow. I have gained much more respect for people who I don't see eye to eye with reaching out to me.Are you drunk again? this is practically unreadable. From what is legible; 1st off, maybe I am picking sides but I am against you being staff in the 1st place. Maybe I am not used to it, but you show not even the slightest reasoning to certain people's warnings You seem to have issues thoroughly investigating a situation when you jump into the server. You have investigated things without logically thinking, even after I had reached out to staff. I still remember the HELP! HELP! HELP! I refuse to believe that was donor abuse mainly because I gave them many a warnings and they kept evading the gags. people got tired of it. I am being honest when I say I cannot knowingly agree to this because even when I pmed you about letting bygones go you had no response. (Yes, this may be biased however if you can't treat everyone equally then you don't need admin let alone moderator). I know for a fact you pick and choose what you want to allow. I gain much more respect for people whom I don't see eye to eye with reaching out to me when they can put a biased opinion of me aside. Also I do not appreciate you bringing up my personal life into this. There is no need to bring up things like that I am speaking my mind plain and simple. I don't care who you are or what power you have. I have called out several bad apples in many a years. I am not saying this said staff member is a bad apple but she needs to be more thoughtful about a situation before just spewing out a warn. |