[d33r]

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Why all the colors making it hard to read this at all. These comments are in no order, I don't have the mind set to order then after reading that. 

I was being "stubborn" because I am not going to bypass all the other admins' decision making regarding prices and what items are where just because you feel entitled since you made the item, that's not how that ever worked. Additionally your melee items that got added without proper testing because you bypassed the proper channel and directly asked an admin to send it to dink instead of getting it added to test by posting it in the dev channel and letting them, you know, actually be tested, they were added without testing and had multiple bugs that persisted for days that you didn't even accept were an issue initially.  As it is I need to take a look at them, since some seem to do very inconsistent things with lag compensation which according to the wiki can break movement of the affect entities.

You literally started saying your app was denied already before we said anything even asking why we haven't posted the denial yet, when we had not even made a solid decision yet. Additionally in your crash out, even before we made a decision you said you were already told you app was denied.  You were even commenting withing a couple min about stuff getting posted into admin chat instead of just getting sent straight to dink when no one mentioned that at all.  If that's coincidence, you would start a fortune telling biz. 

Additionally you went off about Widdy just because she said she would never get staff. No idea why you thought she was talking about you, considering the whole convo in the voice chat was between Bigsad and Widdy. 

Also I am mentioning you warn since you literally overreacted to a simple valid warn and just decided to burn bridges and then continual try and find reasons to have us ban the person you think is reasonable for your warn. 

Also if you didn't know what you were getting yourself into when you joined the dev team with dealing with the player base, why try and join a role that is even more criticizing with a staff app? 


Also normally reports on players aren't done thru admins, its done thru the forums unless its something serious you want to remain anonymous about.  And even then, they aren't discussed among the admins on how to handle it alone. You shouldn't except special treatment, especially with  your recent report that literally just seems like an attempt at revenge against the person you decided was responsible for your warn, when no rule was even broken. 

That's just how I organized it, sorry then.

Did Tdawg4 ever ask you and discuss among you all of your prices for my hats and accessories? as far as I know he did all that on the spot without any of your input. The test server has also proven to be very inaccurate to live several times, Multiple people have also complained that the test server continues to be a chokehold for items. Its so annoying to have to say "it is on test" or when I would mention a bug for you to tell me "its fixed on test". It would be easier and more entertaining all around if things were tested on live with the en-mass of people. Please don't accuse me of being entitled either, Its based on assumption because of when I was in call with virunas adding the items they had used my pricing. I also have yet to hear a single complain about the other changes I asked virunas to make, I distinctly remember one person telling me they loved the change. You can also see many people using the bare fist weapon, if that just sat in waiting for another however long it would have been probably another joke of test. Instead they get to enjoy it and I can update it much faster and easier when multiple people have the item and are messing with it. You also just keep telling me "they seem inconsistent" I can put the other crowbar lag compensation on them but you just aren't telling me. If you really see this as an issue why won't you tell me which ones SEEM wrong? It's like when you said "did we fix the whip yet?" I sent my message twice intentionally because I said thats what I was doing (I also didn't know how to fix the sounds which I mentioned). Of the proper mass testing on live only the harpoon seems to be inconsistent and I don't really know why but its probably the extended range. Would you also like to state what bugs I insisted were normal? This is vague posting to discredit me for what? As far as I know everything that needed to be fixed is, I've yet to see another complaint from a player sent to me or hear one from nelluc. I'm also used to just sending shit straight to dink, I see those days are over now but thats how I remember adding things to murder and deathrun. Thats how I added cosmetics to prophunt aswell by just directly communicating with him himself. So when he adds it anyway thats my fault because I had discussed it with him instead of asking the admins if I can discuss it with him?

Yeah, because I expected it to be denied. Nobody told me anything because again, my source? Made the fuck up. Now I do admit me telling Virunas "admin chat sob" and then "people don't stop talking" seems extremely terrible but I say things such as "I was told", "I heard", or "I know" every time I say anything involving major decisions such as that when I don't actually know. I've done this on multiple peoples applications which 0 applicable proof of anything I'm saying I just want to guess right. Me saying "admin chat sob" was because I was watching the TTT server content addon and previously when Virunas sent my addon/had me sent my addon it was instant. Me not seeing it I assume they sent it in admin chat including since dink didn't mention the update to me like before. I again just lie when I say someone told me because that is just what I have done. It's a consistent pattern from me, I obviously won't dispel this from you but I am honestly telling you, I just be lying.

"d33r can I be totally honest with you? Our president will pay taxes before you get staff here"

You are overreacting with "burning bridges", I made a single report that I infact thought to be teaming. I also never blamed them for my warn. As I told Tiefling I believed the warn was made on a bias twords me. It was as simple as that and I still do not see why this is relevant. (or why mentioning widdys comment is in this reply)

I'm also not getting where I didn't know? I've been here long enough that I know exactly how it is. I've been gmod staff long enough to know how it is. Am I not allowed to leave a role for that reason because its "just expected"? I was taking it fine but as the recent additions went and the way players would say such things wasn't "too much" for me. I didn't want them asking me for more whilst also saying rude remarks about the items. I was leaving on extremely normal terms I would think. I also mentioned in my post about how I see staff separate from Dev, I was still a DR staff. Dead or Not I still have the experience of staffing within this community so I know how it is, It doesn't effect me what so ever because usually if someones complaining its because I muted them for slurring and that is comedical. It's not speaking about my craft its about me being a loser for staffing a gmod server. Which is correct.

This just is something I didn't know. I only made reports through the admins that I specifically thought would cause harassment against me or would cause players to want to avoid the server because of me. I don't want to be the sole reason a group of players doesn't join when this is the only community I play on anymore for TTT and PH. (also the -rep spam would be a preferable avoidance just because of who is making the report.) Maybe it seems like a "revenge" report to you but its not. You won't believe that though so I won't waste time convincing you.

This doesn't answer my question about the christmas crate either. I remember discussing it with nelluc and he informed me of being more informing to dev chat for logging which I think I did well after? I don't remember, I remember though talking to him about it and confirming with him that its logged or however it was. I didn't know it really was an issue like I mentioned I'm more used to just sending people shit. I also wanted the complaints about test to be heard by showing that I can get shit done and in a timely manor. I also can almost guarantee that by letting live have it instantly made it way easier to take care of issues fast, then only a few people testing them on test and it slogging through the cycle. Doesn't matter now though of course but I still care to know if the rest of my efforts will be wasted or not. That I do feel entitled to know.

[Succubus Widdy]

"Something about mentioning widdy" This isn't a quote.

Wait wat. I feel like I missed something.

Also apologizes if my post came off as political, I tried to make a pretty neutral take on what I have heard from each side.

[chibill]

Now that suddenly since I've left Dev chat It seems that all trust is completely gone. I've asked virunas to add the last new melees I created before leaving but they haven't responded at all since. I've asked chibill to do it but he refused the first time and didn't tell me why. The second time I asked he said all this here . Are we really going to completely remove me from everything just because I'm not directly a dev anymore? The fact that I made all the items and provided everything before leaving dev it doesn't matter anymore as if I did nothing? Does this mean the christmas crate that I already had prepared is just going to go to waste now because I made it? I ask about it specifically because I've not heard anything about it. Chibill complaining in game is the only way I've been able to get updated on anything I left. For example a teaming report that I provided to tiefling on 11/17 which I've heard nothing since and only found out they were even looking into it because someone randomly liked the video. So I asked Chibill in game "So any updates on that teaming report?" This is obviously just meant to be shittery but I expected nothing less then "we are looking into it" or "we are debating it currently" clean and simple. Instead I got a full rant of "wow you submitted evidence but okay it doesn't involve you" so sure I could have said something in a less harping tone but this is just dissapointing. I'm sure I've annoyed Chibill at this rate with my annoying comments about the new melee weapons which I'm sorry for, but this is not the reaction an admin really should be given when asked for simply an update. I'm not asking for your admin chat cliff notes. Which I also need to clarify again that there is no leaker I don't have some funky alt in admin or staff chat. Predictability and Coincidences are not me having leaked access to it, please stop being schizophrenic about it.

To add, I have never fully trusted you since our first interaction days after I got admin and you were still community banned. Then as a dev you were making changes to stuff that was live on main without testing or any conversation then going around us totally eroaded  all the trust I had at left.

Additionally you ingored all the times you asked every time I would join the main discords voice chat. You ignore all the times you would pester me on an update on tour app or your appeal.  I had eveb started avoiding voice chat in discord anytime your on now because I got tried of getting asked for the status if staff decisions. 

Additionally I brought up widdy since your crash out qoutes that as one reason you decided to go, claiming she was part of cariobus friend group who you claimed made the report on your teaming out of hatered and you claimed she said you would never get staff. You directly blamed cariobu in voice chat and in your crashout. You literally have players not wanting to be on when you are since they are scared your going to be trying to get them banned for any slight slip up.

Additionally havs you not looked at the code for your melee weapons. They toggle lag compensation randomly being inconsistent about properly disabling it after enabling it. At least look at it before saying you have no idea what I am talking about. 

Additionally your reasoning for saying admin chat sob makes no sense since only dink has access to the main server collections. While I and Virunas have access to tests collections.  Also saying you are just lying, doesnt clear anythinh for me or the other admins on the matter.

Also we put stuff on test for a reason. So they dont break shit and so we can adjust things instantly and test, or so we can develop stuff thats new and get feedback without screwing up normal gameplay.

[tridl]

aren't we here to play videogames guys

[d33r]

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To add, I have never fully trusted you since our first interaction days after I got admin and you were still community banned. Then as a dev you were making changes to stuff that was live on main without testing or any conversation then going around us totally eroded  all the trust I had at left.

Additionally you ignored all the times you asked every time I would join the main discords voice chat. You ignore all the times you would pester me on an update on tour app or your appeal.  I had even started avoiding voice chat in discord anytime your on now because I got tried of getting asked for the status if staff decisions. 

Additionally I brought up widdy since your crash out quotes that as one reason you decided to go, claiming she was part of cariobus friend group who you claimed made the report on your teaming out of hatred and you claimed she said you would never get staff. You directly blamed caribou in voice chat and in your crash out. You literally have players not wanting to be on when you are since they are scared your going to be trying to get them banned for any slight slip up.

Additionally have you not looked at the code for your melee weapons. They toggle lag compensation randomly being inconsistent about properly disabling it after enabling it. At least look at it before saying you have no idea what I am talking about. 

Additionally your reasoning for saying admin chat sob makes no sense since only dink has access to the main server collections. While I and Virunas have access to tests collections.  Also saying you are just lying, doesn't clear anything for me or the other admins on the matter.

Also we put stuff on test for a reason. So they don't break shit and so we can adjust things instantly and test, or so we can develop stuff thats new and get feedback without screwing up normal gameplay.

Okay so you only didn't trust me because I attempted to reach out to you by recommendation to clear my name from a false ban which I've already proven was made on presumptions. So it sounds like you are hung up on something stupid. I also have 0 memory of anyone asking me to more actively discuss in dev chat other than when I spoke with nelluc near the last week, why did you not ask me if it was bothering you?

Again why would you not ask me to not ask you these questions? you were the only admin joining voice chat which is my preferred communication outlet. So of course I would ask you more for updates on things that I had assumed I was allowed to ask. You never said anything to me until I let dev chat and I made this post that you keep calling a crash out. Plus I would at most ask you once or twice before you would continue to shrug it off anyway to talk about what you wanted to. It doesn't make it obvious if you don't tell me.

Why are you lying about this, you clearly don't know what we were talking about. I even went out of my way to not mention widdys name because I had no right to "officially" drag them into this thread. The quote was an example of what people would tell me, You decided you needed to call out widdy. Then wrongly attribute the quote and conversation. I also never claimed widdy was part of caribou's friend group, I also didn't claim widdy said the quote I specifically chose to leave her name out. You are lying about this and I would love to know why you are. (widdy confirming the quote)
I don't argue though that I did blame caribou for the report but we've already gone over that. It's unfortunate I've caused such a scenario, I have nothing to add to that. 

16/19 melee weapons were made from the base of the default crowbar created by bryanbrr for the Crescent Rose Scythe so those should not be different. The only ones I don't know about are the Bare Fist, Boxing Gloves, and Rock. Nelluc has been editing the melee pack for a bit and has yet to mention it to me as an issue or come to me with a fix. So if those 3 weapons are so fucking bad that you need to vaguely complain about it without telling me what is actually wrong I legitimately can not fix it for you. I've said multiple times I do not know how to code and thats why I used bryanbrr's crowbar as a base. So if somehow of those 16 melees are that bad then all of bryanbrr's melees would need to be "fixed" then because they are the same. So please either be direct in what you think the issue is and tell me what I would need to fix it or stop making this a point.

I don't know what this means in the context of what I said. 

So you ignored my question and praised the test server. Doesn't disprove my point about updating the melee weapons easier and faster on live. Doesn't disprove the inconsistencies that test shows between it and main. Doesn't disprove that from the opinions I see and hear, the test server sucks. With dink so active at the moment what even is the issue letting a full server get on and test a map we want. Oh no the server decides the map smells like dick and balls so they don't vote for it more than 3 times in the day and its gone on the morrow.

[chibill]

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To add, I have never fully trusted you since our first interaction days after I got admin and you were still community banned. Then as a dev you were making changes to stuff that was live on main without testing or any conversation then going around us totally eroded  all the trust I had at left.

Additionally you ignored all the times you asked every time I would join the main discords voice chat. You ignore all the times you would pester me on an update on tour app or your appeal.  I had even started avoiding voice chat in discord anytime your on now because I got tried of getting asked for the status if staff decisions. 

Additionally I brought up widdy since your crash out quotes that as one reason you decided to go, claiming she was part of cariobus friend group who you claimed made the report on your teaming out of hatred and you claimed she said you would never get staff. You directly blamed caribou in voice chat and in your crash out. You literally have players not wanting to be on when you are since they are scared your going to be trying to get them banned for any slight slip up.

Additionally have you not looked at the code for your melee weapons. They toggle lag compensation randomly being inconsistent about properly disabling it after enabling it. At least look at it before saying you have no idea what I am talking about. 

Additionally your reasoning for saying admin chat sob makes no sense since only dink has access to the main server collections. While I and Virunas have access to tests collections.  Also saying you are just lying, doesn't clear anything for me or the other admins on the matter.

Also we put stuff on test for a reason. So they don't break shit and so we can adjust things instantly and test, or so we can develop stuff thats new and get feedback without screwing up normal gameplay.

Okay so you only didn't trust me because I attempted to reach out to you by recommendation to clear my name from a false ban which I've already proven was made on presumptions. So it sounds like you are hung up on something stupid. I also have 0 memory of anyone asking me to more actively discuss in dev chat other than when I spoke with nelluc near the last week, why did you not ask me if it was bothering you?

Again why would you not ask me to not ask you these questions? you were the only admin joining voice chat which is my preferred communication outlet. So of course I would ask you more for updates on things that I had assumed I was allowed to ask. You never said anything to me until I let dev chat and I made this post that you keep calling a crash out. Plus I would at most ask you once or twice before you would continue to shrug it off anyway to talk about what you wanted to. It doesn't make it obvious if you don't tell me.

Why are you lying about this, you clearly don't know what we were talking about. I even went out of my way to not mention widdys name because I had no right to "officially" drag them into this thread. The quote was an example of what people would tell me, You decided you needed to call out widdy. Then wrongly attribute the quote and conversation. I also never claimed widdy was part of caribou's friend group, I also didn't claim widdy said the quote I specifically chose to leave her name out. You are lying about this and I would love to know why you are. (widdy confirming the quote)
I don't argue though that I did blame caribou for the report but we've already gone over that. It's unfortunate I've caused such a scenario, I have nothing to add to that. 

16/19 melee weapons were made from the base of the default crowbar created by bryanbrr for the Crescent Rose Scythe so those should not be different. The only ones I don't know about are the Bare Fist, Boxing Gloves, and Rock. Nelluc has been editing the melee pack for a bit and has yet to mention it to me as an issue or come to me with a fix. So if those 3 weapons are so fucking bad that you need to vaguely complain about it without telling me what is actually wrong I legitimately can not fix it for you. I've said multiple times I do not know how to code and thats why I used bryanbrr's crowbar as a base. So if somehow of those 16 melees are that bad then all of bryanbrr's melees would need to be "fixed" then because they are the same. So please either be direct in what you think the issue is and tell me what I would need to fix it or stop making this a point.

I don't know what this means in the context of what I said. 

So you ignored my question and praised the test server. Doesn't disprove my point about updating the melee weapons easier and faster on live. Doesn't disprove the inconsistencies that test shows between it and main. Doesn't disprove that from the opinions I see and hear, the test server sucks. With dink so active at the moment what even is the issue letting a full server get on and test a map we want. Oh no the server decides the map smells like dick and balls so they don't vote for it more than 3 times in the day and its gone on the morrow.

Only person calling out widdy is you. Since you decided she was talking about you when it was Bigsad, Widdy and I speaking in voice with you complaining about your warn at the time.  Want proof? I will happy share the whole message from you from dev chat where you try to claim she said you would never get staff, which she never did say in refernece to you.  And where you blame cariobu and his friends for you warn. 

Also what question did I ignore? Your melee weapons would have had to be updated so often if they were testing before hand. Alao what inconsistencies are you even talking about, since test is very close to being identical to main other then inprogress work. You seem to not understand a thing anout seperating developmwnt and experimental code from something that needs to be stable.

[chibill]

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To add, I have never fully trusted you since our first interaction days after I got admin and you were still community banned. Then as a dev you were making changes to stuff that was live on main without testing or any conversation then going around us totally eroded  all the trust I had at left.

Additionally you ignored all the times you asked every time I would join the main discords voice chat. You ignore all the times you would pester me on an update on tour app or your appeal.  I had even started avoiding voice chat in discord anytime your on now because I got tried of getting asked for the status if staff decisions. 

Additionally I brought up widdy since your crash out quotes that as one reason you decided to go, claiming she was part of cariobus friend group who you claimed made the report on your teaming out of hatred and you claimed she said you would never get staff. You directly blamed caribou in voice chat and in your crash out. You literally have players not wanting to be on when you are since they are scared your going to be trying to get them banned for any slight slip up.

Additionally have you not looked at the code for your melee weapons. They toggle lag compensation randomly being inconsistent about properly disabling it after enabling it. At least look at it before saying you have no idea what I am talking about. 

Additionally your reasoning for saying admin chat sob makes no sense since only dink has access to the main server collections. While I and Virunas have access to tests collections.  Also saying you are just lying, doesn't clear anything for me or the other admins on the matter.

Also we put stuff on test for a reason. So they don't break shit and so we can adjust things instantly and test, or so we can develop stuff thats new and get feedback without screwing up normal gameplay.

Okay so you only didn't trust me because I attempted to reach out to you by recommendation to clear my name from a false ban which I've already proven was made on presumptions. So it sounds like you are hung up on something stupid. I also have 0 memory of anyone asking me to more actively discuss in dev chat other than when I spoke with nelluc near the last week, why did you not ask me if it was bothering you?

Again why would you not ask me to not ask you these questions? you were the only admin joining voice chat which is my preferred communication outlet. So of course I would ask you more for updates on things that I had assumed I was allowed to ask. You never said anything to me until I let dev chat and I made this post that you keep calling a crash out. Plus I would at most ask you once or twice before you would continue to shrug it off anyway to talk about what you wanted to. It doesn't make it obvious if you don't tell me.

Why are you lying about this, you clearly don't know what we were talking about. I even went out of my way to not mention widdys name because I had no right to "officially" drag them into this thread. The quote was an example of what people would tell me, You decided you needed to call out widdy. Then wrongly attribute the quote and conversation. I also never claimed widdy was part of caribou's friend group, I also didn't claim widdy said the quote I specifically chose to leave her name out. You are lying about this and I would love to know why you are. (widdy confirming the quote)
I don't argue though that I did blame caribou for the report but we've already gone over that. It's unfortunate I've caused such a scenario, I have nothing to add to that. 

16/19 melee weapons were made from the base of the default crowbar created by bryanbrr for the Crescent Rose Scythe so those should not be different. The only ones I don't know about are the Bare Fist, Boxing Gloves, and Rock. Nelluc has been editing the melee pack for a bit and has yet to mention it to me as an issue or come to me with a fix. So if those 3 weapons are so fucking bad that you need to vaguely complain about it without telling me what is actually wrong I legitimately can not fix it for you. I've said multiple times I do not know how to code and thats why I used bryanbrr's crowbar as a base. So if somehow of those 16 melees are that bad then all of bryanbrr's melees would need to be "fixed" then because they are the same. So please either be direct in what you think the issue is and tell me what I would need to fix it or stop making this a point.

I don't know what this means in the context of what I said. 

So you ignored my question and praised the test server. Doesn't disprove my point about updating the melee weapons easier and faster on live. Doesn't disprove the inconsistencies that test shows between it and main. Doesn't disprove that from the opinions I see and hear, the test server sucks. With dink so active at the moment what even is the issue letting a full server get on and test a map we want. Oh no the server decides the map smells like dick and balls so they don't vote for it more than 3 times in the day and its gone on the morrow.

I see you forgot about trying to trick me into unbanning you and going around me blocking you with a discord alt and even trying to contact me on steam after that.

[d33r]

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I see you forgot about trying to trick me into unbanning you and going around me blocking you with a discord alt and even trying to contact me on steam after that.

Where the tricking? (i don't remember what alt I contacted you on so I don't have the screenshot) I remember going to try and talk to you about getting an unban request it and when you blocked me I didn't know why so I tried again to get my voice heard. Are you trying to say I should still be banned? Are you saying something? You are actually building nothing out of nothing.

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Only person calling out widdy is you. Since you decided she was talking about you when it was Bigsad, Widdy and I speaking in voice with you complaining about your warn at the time.  Want proof? I will happy share the whole message from you from dev chat where you try to claim she said you would never get staff, which she never did say in refernece to you.  And where you blame cariobu and his friends for you warn. 

Also what question did I ignore? Your melee weapons *would have had to be updated so often if they were testing before hand. Alao what inconsistencies are you even talking about, since test is very close to being identical to main other then inprogress work. You seem to not understand a thing anout seperating developmwnt and experimental code from something that needs to be stable.

I want the proof of where widdy didn't say my name with that quote attached. The message I sent in dev chat doesn't at all involve the fact that widdy LITERALLY confirmed they said it in the screenshot I hyperlinked. I'm not arguing blaming caribou. I'm blaming you for going out of your way to name widdy when I did not.

The Christmas Crate. | would not have had to be*
Its not identical to main, my pointshop items don't even work on test they have to be tested on main as one example. You seem not to understand anything im saying honestly.

please take longer with your next reply if you wish to continue.

[chibill]

Your SS literally says she was talking about the president qoute. You forgot you crop it enough to remove that line.

What pointshop items? You never had us add any to test. So that woild be why they didnt work.

[d33r]

Your SS literally says she was talking  about the president qoute. You forgot you crop it enough to remove that line.

What pointshop items? You never had us add any to test. So that woild be why they didnt work.

Why would I crop that out? thats literally the quote? what other president quote are you talking about?

I had the dev rank I didn't need them to be added because I could add them myself.