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As for the suggestion to permamute fanta, I think that's a bit extreme. Perhaps if that were to continue after the week ban you could consider a permanent mute, but for now I think a 1 week ban is fine.

That’s exactly why staff needs input from people within the demographic targeted by that harassment. It’s easy to say something isn’t that bad when you aren’t affected by it on a regular basis. Anti-harassment rules are in place to protect those affected by the harassment, not the people who think they know the severity of the situation better than them. I won’t even pretend I’m able to accurately gauge how severe harassment on the basis of a trans or non-binary person’s gender identity can be, but at the very least I can understand the fact that there should be no tolerance for it. 

In the end, doesn’t matter what either of us thinks. What matters is how Kaiwan and other members of the dinks community who have actually experienced this harassment feel about these comments.

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You can downvote me all you like, but I personally think that notion to try and up it to a perma immediately is just a little overdramatic.

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I'm not sure about this. I definitely think the victims of these harassment situations should be included in the conversation of punishment, but overall I think it should be left up to the admins who can look at it from a place of unbias. If we leave the punishments up to the victims, they will be extremely severe 9 out of 10 times. Can you imagine if we let victims of RDM decide how many slays their RDMer receives, for example. I'm not going to speak for victims of transphobia or homophobia for obvious reasons, but I've been sexually harassed on the server plenty of times (as I'm sure most other women on the server have) and while I think the current guideline punishments for that are fair, I'm not going to say the decision should be up to me because obviously I'm biased.

Overall, there should definitely consequences for any type of harassment on the server, I just think the current way we have of punishing it is adequately fair.

I wouldn’t be opposed to a “jail style” system in targeted cases where the harasser is perma’d to begins with and the victim can have input into whether a perma should stand or they’re willing to cut some slack. Ultimately still admin decision but it can gauge what the victim really thought on their end of the situation and the instigator of it