[Dildo Shwaggins]

-1 not comfortable with someone who, to this day, unironically slurs while preaching lgbt inclusiveness.

Bringing up slurs from private messages on staff app is just insane to me. I’m not here to defend what Damien or slater said but as long as they don’t say these things in the community I honestly don’t give af .

You can disagree or not but that’s just IMO.

i think a lot of this comes from the server not being sure whether the outside discord behavior is considered something that can be considered or not anymore. previously, there was a precedent that things which were from outside dinks would not be considered (except in rare situations like harassment), but there has been a recent push to hold people accountable for their actions everywhere. 

a possible fix to this would be getting admin clarification on what is acceptable to use or not from these outside servers?

damn i said considered 3 times

Not to deviate too much from the application, I think usage of outside/adjacent Discord content or DMs should only be used within the Dinks community for punishment or staff applications in cases of things that are of the utmost severity- harassment (e.g. by following someone to that adjacent space with malintent) or things that are all server/community bannable. Slurs in a private chat, a racist custom Mudae card in the depths of a private server, etc? Distasteful and in some cases hypocritical? Sure, but do they really affect anything that happens within Dinks if the person acts like a model citizen within Dink-administered spaces and don't carry that over into here?

It's kind of a state of the community thing- I'm under the impression people are bringing shit like that up to paint people they have issues with in a bad light as opposed to making any sort of real change in how the community functions. It's seemed like 95% focused on what people are doing on their friends' servers as opposed to what they're doing on Dinks if it's someone who hasn't joined the community in the past 6 or so months. The newer folks here that aren't entrenched in server lore or haven't come in knowing longtime community members have it lucky in that people only know what they see in this community on that person. But with so many of us being here for literal years, we know more about each other for better or worse, and anyone "new" brought into any loops by those who are friends with certain people come in with a bias. 

To comment further on admin involvement- I think is unacceptable by any means if administrators going into private spaces with the sole intent to find "dirt" on people. As a general rule I think it should be up to people within that space to bring anything to admins if they have concerns about things- and those things really should be limited to severe issues/things that transcend any particular space they're occurring (law violations included, obviously, too). It's not an admin's job to police who can be friends with who.

Back on to topic of staff apps including this one- the only staff apps I see with generally focused discussion and focus on Dink's are those of our newer community members or those that were inactive for a long time/recently rejoined. I don't think I've seen a staff app yet of any longtime community member who has generally remained active at the very least since the April fallout, possibly earlier, that has some sort of attempt to undermine it with long-held biases or grudges, outside content, etc. I'm not asking people who have personal reasons to dislike someone to kiss and make up, but rather take a step back and remember that we're all part of the same community and we'll need to speak what we actually want out of that and the people who staff it in regards to what they do in Dinks first and foremost.