06-30-2025, 07:34 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-30-2025, 07:36 PM by Cimag. Edited 1 time in total.)
(06-30-2025, 07:19 PM)frost Wrote:How would you expect him to get unbanned if all the engagement and positive interactions he has are from his circle of friends, the whole point of him changing and making the appeal is showing he can engage or at least try to engage (making an appeal IS NOT engaging) with the people that are not fond of him, if its impossible to him to behave like a normal human being without harrasment or passive aggressive comments that's a (him) issue and not a community issue, the opportunity to engage is there, if he doesn't take it because he feels he's "compelled to" that's again a (him) issue, how are people to believe he's "changed" if all that there is to the table is:(06-30-2025, 07:10 PM)Cimag Wrote:So then how would you expect him to engage in the feedback if nobody will accept that he changes. You're essentially giving him an impossible task and the only way he would be able to interact with anyone is if they talk to him first. It wouldn't be fair to ask him to put himself in an uncomfortable situation for the sake of reconciliation. Caribou has taken accountability and apologized to multiple people in his past appeals, there's not much more he can do if you're just going to tell him to interact with people that want nothing to do with him.(06-30-2025, 06:55 PM)frost Wrote:Is almost as if, that lack of comfort and trust was a byproduct of a repeated pattern of behavior that got him banned not once but trice, and in the same topic, how are people expected to just "let it go" and allow a player that harrass them and show little to no respect multiple times? You expect people just to suck it up ? It is a lack people wanting to interact with someone who has had multiple (not just once) opportunities to change who they are just to repeat the same behavior(06-30-2025, 06:46 PM)Cimag Wrote:How is he supposed to engage in the community if he's limited to situations where he would feel compelled to speak up? If you read under this post, you'll see nothing but people talking about interactions with caribou with little to no respect for him changing. Their only argument is "I played with this guy, and I don't want to play with him". You expect someone to interact with people who lack interest, bring comfort, or trust anything he says? It's not a lack of opportunity; it's a lack of people wanting to interact with someone who has had months to change who they are.(06-30-2025, 06:34 PM)frost Wrote: Why would he engage in anything other than his appeal if his response to anything wouldn't be relevant? The main subject on the forums is recent ttt information like staff applications, reporting incidents, and the occasional shitpost. How would interacting under any of these posts benefit anyone if he's been banned from that server for more than half a yearThe feedback he was given on the last appeal offer him the alternative to engage in the community or with people before making the next appeal, the intention of said feedback was not to benefit the community itself but rather benefit him and said credibility, if he was given that opportunity why wouldn't he partake on it and just go straight to the appeal again without adding anything relevant?
1. I'm his friend and I'm okay, therefore he's okay
2.Hes says he's sorry^3
3.Other people did worse
The same exact arguments from the previous appeal with little to not evidence shown that he received and practiced the feedback he was given
