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How would you expect him to get unbanned if all the engagement and positive interactions he has are from his circle of friends, the whole point of him changing and making the appeal is showing he can engage or at least try to engage (making an appeal IS NOT engaging) with the people that are not fond of him, if its impossible to him to behave like a normal human being without harrasment or passive aggressive comments that's a (him) issue and not a community issue, the opportunity to engage is there, if he doesn't take it because he feels he's "compelled to" that's again a (him) issue, how are people to believe he's "changed" if all that there is to the table is:
1. I'm his friend and I'm okay, therefore he's okay 
2.Hes says he's sorry^3
3.Other people did worse 

The same exact arguments from the previous appeal with little to not evidence shown that he received and practiced the feedback he was given

He has already engaged with the people who aren't fond of him in his last appeal, he acknowledged his wrongdoings and took accountability for what he did and look where it got him. He's back at square one even after engaging with them. What difference would if make if he directly messaged them and showed what he already did in the last appeal. He's clearly behaving like a normal person and hasn't said any comments relating to harassment or any of the sort in any of his engagements on discord or the forums during his ban. It's not only the "circle of friends" who are saying to unban him, there are staff members and regulars on the server who are agreeing.

At this point you are clearly running around the Rosie trying to dismisss his behavior as something little, the whole so called "engagement" in both of those appeals are "I did it cus I'm sad" "I did it but other player did it too' which are not a valid excuse here nor in any other place, you keep cherry picking "messaging people directly " as if it was the only alternative he was given, which clearly was not, he has had plethora of chances and time to show he has changed, and even without comparing him to any other ban his history speaks for itself, if you only take accountability when it suits you that isn't accountability that's just play pretend, even more so when this is your third time for something you said you were going to change in previous occasions that are well documented as well, and there are plethora of staff members and good ol' regulars on the server that are aware of this type of person and are disagreeing with his unban as well

No where in any of my responses have I dismissed his behavior, I said he acknowledged what he did was wrong and apologized for it. If you can state another alternative other than messaging a person directly and apologizing for what you might have said in the past, I would love to hear it because from my perspective he only has that option as he isn't able to join the server to tell that person and if he does do it in the discord server it's going to seem like he's only doing it to "take accountability when it suits him". Yes, past behavior matters. But the whole reason the appeal process exists is to allow people to be re-evaluated over time not permanently written off. I know you're disagreeing with an unban, which I understand but you shouldn't twist it into a reason to shut the door on someone who is trying to return in good faith.

More than 6 months he has had since the last appeal to engage with the community as chibil pointed out, said community is also available on discord, which he isn't banned from, is also a part of, and seems to have a lot of activity from time to time, yet, he didn't engage with it, not until now that the appeal is back up again, if you know of any other alternative to make people less hesitant to forgive a harasser for an over - evaluated behavior besides sharing a space with them (this being the in game server) I would love to hear it. I know you are aching for an unban but you shouldn't open the door to the abusive step dad just because "this time will be different"

You're just recycling the same points you had earlier, I already stated how people don't like caribou and therefore won't interact with him even though he's trying to show he has good faith. Saying "you shouldn't open the door to the abusive step dad" is not only inflammatory, it's a misrepresentation of caribou entirely. Yeah, he hasn't been active in the discord, but absence from a space doesn't inherently prove unwillingness to change. Some people don't re-engage because they assume they're not welcome, which if you look in the discord right now you will see in the ttt chat someone saying he shouldn't be welcomed back into the community. Why would he interact with someone like that? You're asking for change but it doesn't always look lke public performative engagment. People can change overtime quietly and with a structured appeal, which is happening right now.