07-28-2025, 10:52 PM
(07-27-2025, 10:36 PM)frost Wrote: Ingame Name: frost
SteamID: STEAM_1:0:484982973
Who Banned You: Virunas
Reason For Ban: Mass RDM
Length of Ban: Permanent
Reason for Admins to Unban:
After less than a week of thinking it over and giving myself a break from TTT, I decided today was best for me to create this ban appeal that way it isn't created with the emotions I carried the days following the ban. I was in the wrong for massing and I do apologize to anyone who was affected by my lack of judgment. I have read over the rules multiple times while I have been banned and believe a permanent ban on a player who has never been banned for mass before is above what should have been handed to me. Although it was intentional, I had no malicious intent with my actions.
For context, I was on eclipse and killed 5 innocents and 1 traitor in overtime as I grew tired of the constant delay that occurs more often than not. I would like to also point out that the last traitor was by definition "delaying" as they had only gotten 1 kill within 6 minutes due to a c4 which was placed for 2 minutes. As I started to kill people, the traitor while near me decided to run away and hide in a compartment as they "were scared I was going to rdm them". In order for me to find them, I had to buy a radar or else they would've stayed in the same area until the round ended. Not only were they intentional delaying by not killing any innocents after their c4 went off, but they also refused to play their given role properly with the excuse of "drinking/wanting to get drunk."
I would also like to clear up a comment I saw a couple days after my ban. "did frost even try to contact staff?" In my eyes, I shouldn't need to contact anyone in this situation. As a regular player, I don't think staff would want me telling them to do their job as they were as staff are chosen to reinforce rules. Even if I were to contact staff, there has been a severe lack of players being punished for delaying. If players aren't being punished for a rule set for all players, more players will start to do it which has been happening more on the server. Although a ban was justified because of my actions, I don't believe a ban on par with cheaters is justifiable.
Have you been banned before:
3 times, 2 karma bans (through crowbar battling pancakes), 1 from last year.
+1 to unban, I was the only Inno that was killed by Jack, and it was when I was in the detective room waiting for an EPOCH. The strawman argument being made that the actions were malicious because 6 players were killed is actually so lame and is a bit shameful; however, I do understand that there needs to be devil's advocate for this type of situation, but the FACT IS, that only three players reported, ONE of those reports is INVALID, and another wanting to be forgiven after the fact (Boombox wanting to forgive). The argument being made that Frost deserves a harsher punishment because they are a regular should equally be applied to Jack, being a test-mod, and dishing out a slay for delay is not enough, as Jack should know the rules and values of the server EVEN MORE SO than a regular. Stop thinking this way, it's dumb. People make mistakes. Punishing a regular more harshly is like cutting off the hand of a seasoned chef for dropping a knife while only giving scolding to a first-time cook. Familiarity isn't a crime, and it shouldn't cost more flesh. We are a community, for heaven's sake, and multiple members have given this post a +1 because they know Frost isn't a troll, minge, and didn't do it out of malicious intent. This is what it means to be a member of a community.
I will REITERATE:
“The delay shouldn’t be considered in the unban discussion.” - This is such a rigid and context-blind take. Saying motive doesn't matter is like saying a person who steals bread to feed their kid should be punished the same as someone who steals for fun.
“Being a regular makes it worse.” - This is not discipline, this is resentment disguised as fairness. A student who normally gets A's should be expelled for cheating once? While a failing student should just get detention? Grow up. Ignoring basic ideas of reputation and reform is ridiculous.
“It wasn’t malicious… but it was malicious because it was intentional.” - Simply an overly simplistic view that misrepresents what malicious means. Grow up, not all intentional acts are malicious; that is why intent and motive are separate factors in a moral and legal system.
"Punishment must be harsh to be a deterrent.” Someone parks one inch outside of the lines, and they get their car impounded. Would it make them better parkers? Grow up, it would make people afraid and unwilling to park at all.
"You’re not required to contact staff, but you really should, and kinda failed by not doing so." - "You're not wrong, but you KINDA are." just creates a no-win situation and judges someone for not doing something they weren't obligated to do. This is just social entrapment disguised as politeness.
"Ban should stay, just not permanent." - This is like a prosecutor arguing for life imprisonment and then just ending the speech with "So maybe just probation."
Can we think for a second? Unban Frost, it's insane that they haven't been unbanned when you have MULTIPLE people from the situation, TWO who did the reports saying they should be unbanned.
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