07-29-2025, 02:10 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-29-2025, 03:03 PM by TDawg4. Edited 1 time in total.)
TLDR: Appeal accepted considering "time served" as appropriate for ban length (5ish days). Will unban when server is up.
To Frost: you stated that the ban itself was justified, just that these other factors should be mitigating I think we generally agree with that notion. I think you laid this out but when you simplify it all down you decided to rdm 6 people three of which reported and kept the reports. Staff online made the right call with going forward with the ban. Any future mass rdm ban will be a longer ban length, but yes as you said you aren't a guest that got on the server to play TDM or a cheater where the issue is likely to repeat.
To the comments/replies/overall community.
(From Virunas)
If you have a valid reason to kill someone and are reported for it, it would be very helpful to the person handling your report if you would write that in the report response. We were only notified after the ban took place that Jack happened to be the last unproven player alive and there was/is no way of knowing whether or not frost had appreciated this fact at the time.
Also gentle reminder that the !report command exists so that you can 1) forgive a report you already decided to keep and 2) you can make a report even if the popup doesn’t show up when you get killed.
(Back to me)
Normal "perma" bans are just short for indefinite bans. Not a set length, but without successful appeal will go on indefinitely.
Forgiving or keeping a report after the fact (unless the original decision was an accident) isn't going to on its own undo a ban. Yeah we are going to look at it in the appeal, but after the slay or ban has gone through the next steps are to appeal like frost did here. We don't want people pushed into keeping or forgiving reports. This applies on the flip side where unless it is right at map switch you cannot go back and report someone for an rdm from the previous map or previous day etc etc. (Of course you can come back and forgive a report before a slay has gone through).
Someone delaying is not a reason to rdm. Just like if the last T is afk if you kill them before 5 minutes and they report it is still rdm. If you want them to be fspeced message staff. I realize we have been pretty lax in applying delay rules, and in response to all the comments about it we are going to be more vigilant.
To Frost: you stated that the ban itself was justified, just that these other factors should be mitigating I think we generally agree with that notion. I think you laid this out but when you simplify it all down you decided to rdm 6 people three of which reported and kept the reports. Staff online made the right call with going forward with the ban. Any future mass rdm ban will be a longer ban length, but yes as you said you aren't a guest that got on the server to play TDM or a cheater where the issue is likely to repeat.
To the comments/replies/overall community.
(From Virunas)
If you have a valid reason to kill someone and are reported for it, it would be very helpful to the person handling your report if you would write that in the report response. We were only notified after the ban took place that Jack happened to be the last unproven player alive and there was/is no way of knowing whether or not frost had appreciated this fact at the time.
Also gentle reminder that the !report command exists so that you can 1) forgive a report you already decided to keep and 2) you can make a report even if the popup doesn’t show up when you get killed.
(Back to me)
Normal "perma" bans are just short for indefinite bans. Not a set length, but without successful appeal will go on indefinitely.
Forgiving or keeping a report after the fact (unless the original decision was an accident) isn't going to on its own undo a ban. Yeah we are going to look at it in the appeal, but after the slay or ban has gone through the next steps are to appeal like frost did here. We don't want people pushed into keeping or forgiving reports. This applies on the flip side where unless it is right at map switch you cannot go back and report someone for an rdm from the previous map or previous day etc etc. (Of course you can come back and forgive a report before a slay has gone through).
Someone delaying is not a reason to rdm. Just like if the last T is afk if you kill them before 5 minutes and they report it is still rdm. If you want them to be fspeced message staff. I realize we have been pretty lax in applying delay rules, and in response to all the comments about it we are going to be more vigilant.