11-07-2025, 10:01 AM
(11-06-2025, 12:02 PM)Nelluc9 Wrote:Thanks for posting these, as these prove my point. I'll quote from these guidelines, emphasis on the bolded portions:(11-06-2025, 11:30 AM)Jammin Wrote:(11-06-2025, 11:00 AM)Jammin Wrote: -1 to eam, they should appeal themselves if they care. Also incredibly obvious they were teaming.I now understand rust rock to be a melee substitute.
Is rust rock a t weapon? That would impact my opinion.
I am not aware of any situation where there is an obligation to kill players in some order. It sounds like d33r was not aware of, consenting to, or otherwise supporting their revival as an innocent, but was aware Eam did the revival.
D33r then killed members of the opposing team - known traitor "The Guest" (i'm guessing this is Lil peepo?) and known traitor Eam.
To call this teaming is stretching things - in fact, I would argue, that standing there doing nothing is more akin to teaming than killing members of the opposite team.
As per the staff guidelines:
A traitor reviving an innocent then getting their T buddy killed is the actual definition we use as a baseline for Severe Teaming.
"Severe teaming involves situations where the teaming results in major game disruptions. In these instances, both parties are actively working together to achieve the other's objectives and are fully aware that their activities will defeat the objectives of the game."
I do not believe that d33r was actively working with eam, as d33r was revived unwillingly, and continued to achieve the inno's objective, not the traitor objective.
Additionally, d33r was not a traitor who revived an innocent. If you are an innocent, being revived, you can go kill traitors. That's literally the game objective.
Are we living in a world now where you must kill traitors in order, just because someone else breaks the rules?
Should all innos immediately turn around and kill a traitor who revives them - a traitor with a strategic advantage - instead of trying to run and kill that traitor strategically?
Since the rules were brought up (not the Staff Guidelines), let's discuss the rules. The rules state:
"Do not team with or intentionally aid members of the opposite team, such as by giving traitor items to innos or reviving innos who then kill your fellow traitors."
This applies to Eam, as the reviving party, but how does the 'victim' of this revival get punished?
Like it or not, I believe that the Staff Guidelines, as well as the Rules, as currently written, defend d33r and require acquittal. Maybe moderate teaming applies, but this situation, if looked at objectively without emotions or silly grudges getting in the way, does not support "severe teaming" as currently written.
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