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The fact i even have to make this is frustrating.
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(06-15-2020, 07:01 PM)Abdel Wrote: Here's my take on this.


Nuru love ya but on pauling's side its not actually incorrect what she did. Without proper video evidence we won't know what actually happened with what was said and whether each gag was appropriate. Now with Minotaur, him going in and suddenly muting and gagging just because he predicts that these trolls will escalate the situation eventually, yes anyone can see where this was going, but the topic of the matter changed once Minotaur decided to do what he did. It did stir the pot worst and still furthers the topic of "Donors aren't Staff" Minotaur in no way handled this properly at all and jumped at their necks for saying something as trivial as "fuck you." Any other comment after that warrants their mute. It is the fact that it was tame when the initial gag happened, but a ping to staff needed to happen after the donor and trolls in question were duking it out. In these messages I didn't seem to see this "copped attitude" that nuru mentions in her original post. I just see the same warnings staff would give to trolls like this. Unless the person who was muted randomly by minotaur at the start was saying inappropriate stuff in the team chat (if so evidence pls), then that was handled poorly. You can't just gag/mute someone cause you know they will start stuff regardless if they will or not. Record it, follow the proper procedure if it happens, don't go all loose canon and gag/mute because your gut tells you someone's gonna troll.
lemme rephrase when i said protocol wasnt followed fully i didnt mean her. i didnt see -PROPER- warnings from mino
that part was about him. just him being snarky after halfway into it.
as for the fuck you i would have personally gagged for it bc rules gag for shut up and thats a lot worse and falls under player disrespect which pauling had told them to chill out already. So it makes sense for the mute. but after that, is where it starts going wrong on both sides. She admitted to blanking on calling for staff bc mino does have a way with getting under peoples skin. im fully aware. so theres the fault on her side.
for mino its obvs and i shouldnt have to explain i hope where he was wrong.
again its just two different staffing styles one more strict one very very laid back and it clashed but thats my opinion ofc. the attitude i was talking about took place in the pms between the two. For someone that's applying for staff, you need to be able to try to keep your calm even in annoying situations like this, and instead of ignoring/pinging for staff/not replying she also in turn got snarky back, from what i can see.

the video tho like i said from the start would be extremely helpful because a lot of it also happened in voice and both users use voice from time to time so theres a large piece we're all missing here

edit; i still agree it escalated and shouldnt have but it isnt because of ONE person. it takes two to tango in situations like this and the abuse report is for him making it all escalate but it wasn't him alone. It was a team effort here of miscommunication and different staffing styles that caused this. Which is what I was arguing against since like I said, the abuse report is over him escalating it.


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RE: The fact i even have to make this is frustrating. - by Smurfmin - 06-15-2020, 07:26 PM

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