[john ling]

Hi Hong, thank you for applying for the rank of Moderator.
Over the past few months, you have taken your role as a staff member by the horns and run with it. You have fought tooth and nail to make the server a better place by various weapon balancing, map/model testing, and assertive moderation of the server for it's benefit.

However, there have been three incidents, all within discord (two in main and one in staff) involving inappropriate jokes that give me strong pause. I won't recount them publicly and will add that these weren't by any means bannable offenses, but I feel they go well beyond an appropriate level of "gamer banter." None of the incidents I am recollecting involved racism/sexism/antisemitic humor, to make that point clear.
Now at least for one particular incident, you have apologized and acknowledged your wrongdoing, though after being called out on it. The other two, to my knowledge, you have not acknowledged - I hope you at least have reflected on the issue.
For the sake of privacy I will not share details of any of the incidents, though I will discuss in DM's with HONG or any of the TTT admins should he/they wish to know.

Due to this reason alone, I just don't think you are ready to move up to the moderator rank. I supported you strongly on the T-Mod app (and I stand by that support) because that app was prior to all 3 incidents. I think you will make a great Moderator some day, but for right now you are just too aggressive with some of the jokes.
Outside of these incidents, HONG's work ethics in the server exemplifies the ideal TTT Moderator

-1 promotion for right now.
In a month? Unless something else comes up probably a +1.

Best of luck in your application, HONG.

-1

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Moderate
Moderate issues will result in at minimum a warning and watch from the admins. A member who has a recent moderate breach may not be eligible for promotion. Admins may also discuss a rank demotion if the staff member repeats offenses.
- Minor issues that continue after warning(s) and/or arguing the issues
- Receiving a legitimate ban
- Actively trolling or flaming situations instead of solving them as a staff member. 
-***Indirect racism or use of terms***
- Abuse of powers


Given the recent discord/forum issue I would have concerns if it was deemed acceptable behavior by accepting the app immediately after. -1

-1

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Given the recent discord/forum issue I would have concerns if it was deemed acceptable behavior by accepting the app immediately after. -1

This is well said. I too have concerns with HONG's recent behavior in the discord. Specifically a meme that was not ok. Being a moderator is a pretty high staff rank, before advancing to the next rank I think behavior should definitely improve. -1

-1

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I am going to try to not be biased, truth be known I totally forgot that you posted that stuff on the forums the other day. What could be learned from this is to be careful when joking around and stuff. All in all that incident can put a hamper on things and also I’m kinda worried that something like that might happened again when you are goofing off too much with your friends. Anyway it’s okay to joke around and stuff but for now I’m at a -1 since I honestly want to see how you improve past this and stuff. So if this gets denied and you work hard and don’t have any other incidents then you will most likely get mod eventually. Best of luck on your app Hong and like I said I still believe you are a good guy and want to help out the community.

-1  :@

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I'm not trying to put down anyone's opinions but keep in mind that PH and TTT aren't the same community. There's a big age and culture gap between the two, and the rules and standards of conduct differ between them as a result. There's definitely more risqué discussion going on in TTT and someone applying to be a moderator shouldn't be forced to become a choir boy because of that. I've played with HONG for hundreds of hours simultaneously and seen what he says & does, and I've never noticed anything that was more than lighthearted jokes. You see more of a persons character through many hours instead of isolated incidents that can be misconstrued and taken out of context. He's done a shitton of testing & theorycrafting for gameplay for the server as well as frequently handled the insanity that can occur on the server. I'd go as far as say he's really set a gold standard for non-Admin staff and that the only logical move is upwards.

tldr -1

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shnipshnip

shnipshnip

Yes and no. Since becoming staff, I've tried not to become uptight, pompous, or otherwise someone who sits on their high horse, since I've always wanted to stay connected with the people in this community, rather than becoming a changed person who isn't fun to be around and generally creates distance from the spirit of the community--which would go against my desire to keep the server and community as a fun place to be. As for out of line joking? I try to leave well enough alone and never cross the line that separates the responsibilities of a staff member, and role model, and the out-of-control "all for fun" behavior of a regular player (more on that later).

The only kind of joking I wanted addressed and snipped in the butt was the ones that went over the lines like you got in trouble for on forums
Alll the rest and harassing people and being a dickbutt like u are, is all fine and i wouldn't change that for the world. That makes you, YOU, and is the reason you stand out.

My answer is still the same, temporary -1, I'd like to see a month pass and see you be good hanger with no over the line jokey jokes like you got warned for on forums (i didnt even know about the discord stuff)
if you can be good in ur closet for one month im an easy +1 but i think you need small probabation period to be watched

Have to quick edit because me joking got mistaken. I call you hanger because my phone changed Hong to hanger every time. Like a clothes hanger. So I made the closet joke. And when I said harassing people I didn't mean it literally. I meant it as a joke as well because I "harass"people too. So I apologize.

-1 in the closet

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every -1 is a prophunt player

every +1 is a ttt player

which subforum is this thread in?

I'm not trying to start a fight, just here to prove a point. There are realistic reasons why there are - 1's. Other than those reasons, I still believe he would be a good Moderator. 





These two are not playing PH. Just saying. Also everyone has a voice on staff apps. Especially with it being a higher application like Moderator. Staff is a team, not just TTT staff, PH staff, Murder staff and DR staff.

-1 here's the forewarned code 449090