[Trombowen]

I dont think the Grappling hook is used much by Traitors outside of a select few maps, while Detects usually buy one to dick around, wich by the way kills them more then I would like... Not to mention most areas reached by the grappling hook can be reached with propsurfing albeit it takes a bit more time messing with the props and all. So while people would be upset of its removal I doubt much gameplay gets significantly altered by its removal. On the other hand we have the Jumppack, wich has become a well renowed item and if its removed or altered it can significantly alter gameplay from what we have now wich in my opinion will affect the server negatively, or at least the most negative out of the solutions I can see so far.

Forcing staff to be on their toes watching for people abusing the exploits is... Lets just say I dont think that'll work. And if we allow them we're a bunch of hypocrites for allowing exploits onto the server.

Questioning if it should or shouldn't be allowed isnt in my mind whatsoever because I am heavily convinced that as an exploit, it shouldnt be allowed at all.

Prop surfing is not even in the question, considering it's KOS'able, potentially kills you from fall or prop damage, takes considerably longer, and some maps don't even have props suitable for it. The grappling hook has its place in the game; on maps like terror town or rooftops (which is a very popular map), the grappling hook is meta. It's not as popular as the ballistics vest or brawny brew / bold booze, but it's fairly close. No other traitor or detective equipment allows for vertical motion, and the removal of it would alter game play significantly on those maps. Also, you're discounting the grappling hook because it's used quite frequently to dick around, but that's exactly why it shouldn't be removed. The grappling hook is a lot fun to use, whether you're using the exploit or not, and, you know, the whole point of this game is to have fun. If people are having fun on a server, they tend to come back.

I agree with you that we shouldn't ask staff to do more than the little they actually do, but in terms of allowing the exploit, it really isn't that bad. I'd venture to say almost all of the times someone uses the exploit, they're doing it randomly to fly around the map because it's FUN. Using the exploit has its detriments as well, as I've listed before; it's not like you can't be killed while using it, because it leaves you very vulnerable at predictable intervals.