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04-20-2025, 08:33 PM
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Wasn't gonna comment here but your tendency to block staff on discord for being critical of your app (myself included in a private setting, so im not sure how you acquired such information and blocked me for it) shows that you are not ready for a staff position at this moment, reflect on this information and change your mindset going forward.
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(04-20-2025, 07:37 PM)Dildo Shwaggins Wrote: (04-20-2025, 06:12 PM)d33r Wrote: (04-20-2025, 04:23 PM)Saylor Twift Wrote: -1'ing someone who is giving you pretty solid suggestions and feedback on your app isn't really a good look. Also, it makes me think that there could be some difficulties handling criticism you could get while staffing so I'm gonna be at a -1
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"this raises is your ability to impartially staff in high-stress situations, because frankly, the only people who will care about any of your feelings during a situation might possibly be people you consider yourself friends/acquaintances with on the server. Random guest RDMers, minge groups, etc. will not care about how you feel or anyone on the server feels, they're gonna cause trouble until they receive consequences for doing so."
"I think you know the rules and can at some point be good staff down the line, but taking constructive criticism is going to be necessary if you're going to want to grow and improve as a staff member if you get approved."
I feel as though I've already proven that before (example being the guy who used 5 alts in a day constantly throwing abusive language at me on DR). I find it bad that by me being honest about Viruna's reply that somehow has to correlate to how I would act as a staff member. I say these things here because you are people I end up talking to every single day. You are claiming you are similar to these trolls and RDMers? It's not about some random doofus named schlongkong898, its about a Moderator who I have everyday interactions with telling me the exact same lines staff did years ago.
I don't understand why It's now taken that I'm ignoring criticism. It it because I didn't immediately say "thanks, good day"? This is the exact type of stuff I mean when I said I'm exhausted of having to explain what I mean. I shouldn't have to even say this but its now a point because I was honest. Then its going to be tacked on that I'm arguing and fighting and being defensive because I said I was upset? It's unfathomable to me, Genuinely.
Also to bald but just this: "You go even a bit beyond being defensive and bring up the names and actions of people who are not involved in your application or the critiques of those you are replying to."
Completely ignores what I say about examples, Their names genuinely should not matter. My entire point is that examples are what I need to better understand the criticism being provided to me. Me mentioning the staff is part of my example so I can portray to you what I wish to convey the way I know how to with the words I have.
Yet I guess It doesn't matter right? Because regardless of what I think it's the same "deflecting criticism", "extremely defensive for no reason" statements I've been told for years now. You can even say my reply is offering criticism to Virunas on how to better communicate to me what they feel about my actions. But no-one's going to say that, I doubt they would even see it that way. Like I said it's so exhausting having to explain everything I say multiple times just for it to be called "defensive" when I just want to make sure people understand what I am saying. Not taking it on walks to "this probably means you won't act right", "this raises the question if you are even capable", or something else I've heard from every staff both new and old. Nothing Is upsetting me more than what I say being construed by the people I'm supposed to look up to and be friends with.
So for the time being I'm staying muted and keeping the in-game chats hidden until either *i have too* because this in some universe gets accepted but if the staff chat thread is already -1's please don't waste the time leaving the thread up. Or I feel comfortable speaking again. I'm also not going to reply again after this if you want a specific question answered you can DM me, I'm not going to keep repeating myself for the 10th staff app in a row.
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I'm going to -1 this just based on how it was handled, you could have done so much more gracefully. You already understand my feed back from private chats. I think you will get this in the future, but today is not that day.
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04-20-2025, 10:42 PM
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(04-20-2025, 08:38 PM)d33r Wrote: (04-20-2025, 07:37 PM)Dildo Shwaggins Wrote: (04-20-2025, 06:12 PM)d33r Wrote: (04-20-2025, 04:23 PM)Saylor Twift Wrote: -1'ing someone who is giving you pretty solid suggestions and feedback on your app isn't really a good look. Also, it makes me think that there could be some difficulties handling criticism you could get while staffing so I'm gonna be at a -1
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"this raises is your ability to impartially staff in high-stress situations, because frankly, the only people who will care about any of your feelings during a situation might possibly be people you consider yourself friends/acquaintances with on the server. Random guest RDMers, minge groups, etc. will not care about how you feel or anyone on the server feels, they're gonna cause trouble until they receive consequences for doing so."
"I think you know the rules and can at some point be good staff down the line, but taking constructive criticism is going to be necessary if you're going to want to grow and improve as a staff member if you get approved."
-snip- It's pretty clear shitty experiences on this topic have caused you a great deal of trauma and resentment, not necessarily towards any person or group in particular, but in relation to the issues at hand. To address your point on ignoring or deflecting criticism, I don't believe it's that you're deflecting or ignoring it here. Rather, I think what is happening here is you're construing the criticisms given to you as personal attacks and responding in turn to that perception. As you admit, your ability of processing all of that can be a cause of difficulty and it boils down into being upset about things. That being said, you still share a responsibility in being cognizant of what limitations you have and how they would affect staffing, particularly the part that gets the toughest- staffing staff, regulars, and the people who have more implicit biases (not just handing discipline, but rather cooperation and conflict resolution).
Admittedly, the part about rando minges is kinda irrelevant in hindsight. But ultimately, while I understand that there's more others can do in terms of approaching you in a helpful manner, I don't believe anyone is actively trying to upset you for the sake of upsetting you either.
It's okay to admit to struggles, be upset, all of that. But it's also your responsibility to address things in yourself and your own known struggles. None of that makes you a bad person or someone incapable of improving. I believe those giving criticism are giving it in what they perceive as in your best interest. Those perceptions in this type of community are always going to have a level of disingenuousness to them- it is a semi-anonymous space on the internet, nobody knows the full, real you. But they'll be based off what they see and hear from the possible interactions.
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I have talked to you several times and what I can gather you seem to be very involved in the community and have a passion for helping others. Though from what I can see inside of this thread, you have some disqualify-able habits relating to cutting off communication from staff members during constructive criticism or not displaying very strong de-escalation skills.
Because of what staffing on here typically entails, I will go with a +0 for now. If I do see some changes down the road though I will definitely go for an upvote. Right now though, I think given your circumstances this type of role might take a toll on you. Good luck though!! ^^
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04-21-2025, 01:14 AM
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Hey d33r. The admin team has decided to deny this application. I think for staff apps a lot of times people take criticism as the same as being described as a bad person. There is a reason that you had so much support for your dev app. People like having you in the community. There is a difference between dev and staff and I think the comments there compared to some of the comments here show that.
Different roles take different types of people, temperaments, etc. There are a number of players on the server that have tons of time, know the rules, and I enjoy playing with that just wouldn't do well as staff without a change in how they do things. They dont have to change to continue to be a awesome member of the community, but for staff that is something I would want to see.
There are multiple things pointed out among the posts and responses to posts, but I think the most important take away for you is that it is really important (for staff) to be able to turn down the temperature. Some staff do it better than others, but this is a really important part of staffing and I think an area where for you to staff there needs to be improvement. Again you dont have to change, but responding in a way that defuses a situation (even when the other person is in the wrong) is really important for staff.
There do need to be temperature turner uppers in the world (and on the server), but usually that approach just results very poorly in this role.
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