[PandaInPants]

that's crazy so you banned my alt based on just false evidence then

but hell yeah I tried circumventing the alt checker, because I wanted to understand how invasive it was as well as just generally how it worked. I won't go into details about how it works, however, yes I wanted to make sure that even on the same internet connection, connected at the same time it wouldn't pick it up. Funnily enough, the one round that both accounts were on at the same time I was T on both. In no way was this done with malicious intent. I personally really enjoy playing on alt accounts because it allows you to just play on your own, completely unbothered. Playing on an alt also allows me to play my steam deck on my main account while also sitting in spectator waiting for something to do. With that being said, at the same time, it is just fun messing with people who can't actually figure out who you are.

 Isn't this ghosting?

 Also, it really is exceptionally weird to be hardcore investigating an alt-checker for a Garrys mod server unless you are working on something in computer science.

 

Honestly super weird how much so many of the people here are supporting themselves being weird and offensive in other chats. Why is that so important to you? Why is being offensive to others so important that you are trying to call out people who are uncomfortable with those actions? Like its really weird and super uncomfortable that you won't just give up on the behavior and just chill. 

Tief is not the only person to dislike a lot of people in the community, but she at least wants to make it better even when disliking many of you. I genuinely dislike so many people here and think a lof of them are gross people who genuinely make me uncomfortable. I rant to my non-dink friends about this place all the time and get asked if I'm lying because of how unreal so many of you sound. 

Makes me like that generally the ttt server is chill people late at night and a lot less of the people who talk on the forums actually play. So many of you need to genuinely get a life outside of a gmod server. The fact you had time to write 18 pages on a person in a gmod server shows you are a fucking weirdo. You couldn't find ANYTHING else to do with your time and effort? Like getting a job?

[茶 Tea]

i would like to add that if the alt checker is genuinely invasive some of us would like to know!!

[noire]

i would like to add that if the alt checker is genuinely invasive some of us would like to know!!

its not invasive at all, it's a very clever way of detecting alts without taking too much of the user's information I cannot speak on how it works specifically, however, it is nothing that violates privacy, otherwise I would've brought it up in another 20 page document

[Misstie6731]

that's crazy so you banned my alt based on just false evidence then

I didn't ban it until someone from your group who was in a call with grasse said that it was a grasse alt.

secondly, I'm done with this whole argument of me misconstruing your words. At the end of the day, you will trust players more if they leak out bad actors from private discords, which you still stand by. You've made that evident with the screenshots you've made alongside the ones I've given. All I'm asking you to do is to stop using evidence from outside discords to try and get people banned! Don't act like I didn't see that leaked admin chat you put out earlier, that's damning enough. The last time people were recording others without their consent in private discords didn't go well either btw.

"Concealing information that was directly shared with you about your friends breaking the rules is a bad quality for staff and makes you difficult to trust, what a crazy concept! You can keep trying to intentionally misconstrue what I said, but the full conversation is there for anyone to read. At no point did I go asking them to leak your discord (which I was still in at the time, mind you), and they could have mentioned the rule breaking to any other admin besides me as well."

alongside me reaching out questioning individuals whom I thought were in it.

Thank you for once again admitting to the exact behavior you're accusing me of!

I do not currently have the evidence

Full stop.

also what's your deal with the lack of a date and time on that its a meme, I didn't even make it

No no no, you're not backpedaling out of this one. You accused me of altering evidence to paint something in a different light, then actually did exactly that yourself. You (or whoever you included it in your doc from) went out of your/their way to edit out the date to hide the context of the comment and tried to paint it as a completely different statement than what it was.

I made the meme, the fact the date and time was cut out was literally just an editing error because I am dumb and my memes suck.

[tiefling lesbian]

I made the meme, the fact the date and time was cut out was literally just an editing error because I am dumb and my memes suck.

Where'd you get the screenshot from?

[Misstie6731]

I made the meme, the fact the date and time was cut out was literally just an editing error because I am dumb and my memes suck.

Where'd you get the screenshot from?

I plead the 5th.

[RussEfarmer]

(i didnt read any of yalls replys and I do not want to type some mf shakespeare in here)

- staffing on multiple servers is fine imo although a little lame for high level staff
- conduct is a unprofessional and unhelpful for no real reason in regard to the "grasse alt" ban
- reaching out into other discords for bad player behavior falls into almost creepy levels of overstaffing, its a bad practice in most situations that does not provide much benefit to the player culture of dinks via finding rulebreakers in comparison to the detriment it causes to the experience of regular players in that discord
- The screenshots of tiefling making jokes in bad taste is pretty old, and while I personally would like to trust that tiefling has moved on from that as an admin, it does create an area of concern for me personally that she thought these things were acceptable to say recently (recently in the context of personal development)

That's all I know enough to comment on

In my opinion, mediocre admin practices? Yeah, but I've disliked other admins more. Worth a demotion? ehh... most of this stuff isn't that deep. Consider though that my perspective is different because I was not directly involved in any of this.

[PandaInPants]

I agree with this take on the situation. Some of this evidence does have merit and some does not, but the main issue is that rarely anyone trust Tiefling (including myself). I have tried to make friends with her in the past and I got told I was not genuine because I had just called her out on her Admin application. I am a very straightforward and blunt person so I told her while I do agree with my statements that I made, I am willing to put that all under the bridge and start fresh. These are just my personal experiences with Tiefling and I do agree that Tiefling lacks the communication skills to rebuild burnt bridges. Now, we could be on the server together and I will never get address by Tiefling unless she believes I am doing something wrong staff wise. I have had a couple cases where I had to explain myself to her even though nothing was wrong with the way I handled a report. I have no screenshots of this unfortunately so, before you ask take these statements with a grain of salt. I believe there are definitely things that need to be addressed with Tiefling, but some of the points in the document are irrelevant.

https://imgur.com/a/zIsykaG (here is the convo of me attempting to become friendly towards each other, as I said I am very straightforward and blunt, especially after she called me disingenuous)

 The way you reach out to people out of nowhere to be friends when you haven't been around in a while and how dedicated you tend to act towards people who don't know you is uncomfortable. You can't blame tief when the first thing you did when you "came back" was argue with people on the thread. Not everyone wants to be friends with everyone. I constantly see you complain about how someone wont be friends with you and how "I'm the chillest person in dinks" while non stop complaining about someone being slightly disrespectful for weeks. Someone doesn't have to be friends or build communication with you if they don't want to. If someone decides that your personalities don't mesh enough to be friends they can just not be friends.

[tiefling lesbian]

I have tried to make friends with her in the past and I got told I was not genuine because I had just called her out on her Admin application. I am a very straightforward and blunt person so I told her while I do agree with my statements that I made, I am willing to put that all under the bridge and start fresh. These are just my personal experiences with Tiefling and I do agree that Tiefling lacks the communication skills to rebuild burnt bridges.

I have no interest or obligation in being friends or "rebuilding burnt bridges" with someone who is constantly talking shit about me behind my back. These two messages happened 20 minutes apart.

Now, we could be on the server together and I will never get address by Tiefling unless she believes I am doing something wrong staff wise.

I have never ignored any staffing related inquiries, but as previously stated I do not owe you friendship. I keep neutral distance to avoid conflict and respond to anything staff related.

I have had a couple cases where I had to explain myself to her even though nothing was wrong with the way I handled a report. I have no screenshots of this unfortunately so, before you ask take these statements with a grain of salt.

I don't recall this happening, but I do recall you questioning and second guessing every warn I give while you're on that would be explained easily by taking 2 seconds to read chat or reports, ranging from rdm and leave to sexual harassment.

[HONG]

I have tried to make friends with her in the past and I got told I was not genuine because I had just called her out on her Admin application. I am a very straightforward and blunt person so I told her while I do agree with my statements that I made, I am willing to put that all under the bridge and start fresh. These are just my personal experiences with Tiefling and I do agree that Tiefling lacks the communication skills to rebuild burnt bridges.

I have no interest or obligation in being friends or "rebuilding burnt bridges" with someone who is constantly talking shit about me behind my back. These two messages happened 20 minutes apart.

This shits disgusting. From genuine misogyny to trying to "trying to make friends" is beyond gross, no wonder she doesn't interact with you when possible. 
Regardless, the reasoning behind the "trust issues" being cause for concern can be said for the entire admin team, public trust in TTT admins is at an all time low due to how divided the community is, not to mention the other reasons.