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We have heard this story before. He has been perma banned MULTIPLE times before... how many chances do we have to give people? I understand that people can change, but he has continued to show over the course of multiple years that he has not changed one bit. Every time he gets banned he appeals, gets the appeal, then six months later is back on the same behavior that got him banned in the first place. I do not support an un-ban in this instance. if it was his first, maybe his second, sure, but three strikes your out.
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04-08-2025, 09:55 PM
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Caribou is one of several people that I've seen a general cycle with. Start shit, get banned, get unbanned, be okay for a bit, start shit, rinse and repeat. Oftentimes, the unbans are granted to people with greater community involvement/a lot of friends in the community. The question is, will he continue or break the cycle if unbanned? Shaye, as an example, while inactive as of late, was able to stay well-behaved after the recent unban despite heavy doubt from myself and others on their ability to do so. So, if the unban does occur, I'll be pleasantly surprised if the same happens here. But on the same time, I won't hold my breath either.
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There were a few people that vouched for your change before your last unban so I’m genuinely curious about what’s different this time. It’s easy to say you’ve grown and learned alongside some beautiful people as you put it, but what’s your actual game plan moving forward? Do you have specific skills you can use to make sure you don’t end up harassing anyone again? If you ever feel the temptation to be unkind, are you willing to step back from the server, or do you think you might give in to that impulse again? I really believe having answers to these questions could help us all see how much your growth is genuine and whether it’s worth considering your unban again.
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Time to move onto a new community if you want to play TTT
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(04-08-2025, 10:42 PM)3mb3ry Wrote: There were a few people that vouched for your change before your last unban so I’m genuinely curious about what’s different this time. It’s easy to say you’ve grown and learned alongside some beautiful people as you put it, but what’s your actual game plan moving forward? Do you have specific skills you can use to make sure you don’t end up harassing anyone again? If you ever feel the temptation to be unkind, are you willing to step back from the server, or do you think you might give in to that impulse again? I really believe having answers to these questions could help us all see how much your growth is genuine and whether it’s worth considering your unban again. You're right it's definitely easier said than done, one of the reasons I got hostile was my inability to step back and take a break. My friends pointed out the unhealthy amount of hours I would put in whenever I played on the server. I noticed it too when playing more competitive games for longer periods of time, I would get more combative. I learned when to stop. I recently got eternity in marvel rivals and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have gotten that rank had I not taken breaks.
I don't blame anyone for doubting what I'm saying, I kept my circle small and close, and treated anyone who wasn't a close friend coldly. I don't usually talk about my personal life much but without tmi, here goes. I was self-isolating for a couple of years, rejecting any attempts at closeness aside from my cat. I moved to LA about a year ago and had to leave my cat and come out of my shell. Reintegrating back into society has been a journey, lowering the walls I had raised and accepting myself allowed me to accept others. Moving to a new country was a lot harder than I thought, and without growing I wouldn't have been able to survive. I couldn't stay antisocial, and with being more sociable came more empathy. The reason I felt the need to add in meeting people I've met online irl was because that too taught me a lesson. I didn't think any connection made online was really real, which added onto my apathy. However I was wrong, dinklebergers are people too......
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(04-08-2025, 11:50 PM)caribou Wrote: (04-08-2025, 10:42 PM)3mb3ry Wrote: snip snip
Listen man, it's been ~6 months since you got banned. I cannot, in good faith, believe that you've "changed" and won't re-offend upon your return, given your history. I wasn't staff during your tenure on the server, but I've heard the stories of not only the folks who were harassed enough to want to avoid the server entirely when you were present, but also the staff members who had to painstakingly collect the evidence of your conduct from others and make their determinations based (usually) upon second-hand accounts of your behavior.
Combining that with my own (limited) personal experiences of your interactions on the server and in the community at large, it seems like your antics made life notably more difficult for at least a handful of people when you were present.
I just hope you're still optimistic enough about life to really have the desire to change for the better. Based on your account of the situation, I think you'd do well by yourself to see a therapist. That way, you might be able to find the part of you responsible for this shitty behavior and suppress it, or even better, kick it to the curb. There are a lot of people that support you and support your unban in spite of your history, which tells me that you aren't just here to make everyone's experience worse, so you have something to build off of.
I'll leave a -1 here, but I really want to see you return with a fresh perspective. The easiest way to achieve that is time & therapy. In the meantime, live your life, and enjoy it :)
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Just a couple weeks before you posted this we got into a random game of marvel rivals together and you spent the whole time trying to get me to react to you and message at me when i ignored you, calling me weird etc, you dont like me and i dont like you but i didnt engage in ur bait and trying to get me to react. I usually agree with stuff that fanta says in just unbanning them and re-banning someone if they step out of a line when it comes to hacking, rdming, etc but with u its always harassment and even in a neutral setting away from dinks you couldnt be bothered to not say anything to someone u dont like or find weird, I dont play on dinks but it wouldnt be fair to someone who does to get the same treatment and thus avoid playing something they enjoy.
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Hi Caribou, this appeal has been denied. Re-appeal date is set for 5/9/2025.
(from me)
In comparison to previous appeals I think the things you are a saying here are generally more promising. I do hope that you are consistently having better and more positive interactions with others. However, the issue has never been how you act to those you are friends with but generally the atmosphere you create when engaging with others. For a lot of people you are a fun to play with. At the same time you have historically been pretty hostile to anyone outside that circle, or who you want to talk to when on server.
Yeah you cant prove you have changed without being able to play and there probably have been people unbanned who did worse actions. However, (as i think many people pointed out) the issue here isn't one bad action. You have been banned for a variety of actions in the same category multiple times with a number of punishments that did not stop you from continuing. You didn't do one thing bad, you just generally treated a number of people badly. (There are other warns but that is the issue here).
There is no requirement to beg on your knees and grovel for an unban, this is a TTT server. All you can say at the end of the day is that you wont do the things that got you banned to begin with. Whether someone believes you or not is up to them or if it has been long enough to be worth giving another shot.
If you want to dm me or have the people you have been playing with dm me before your next potential appeal, feel free. I think hearing from someone else the types of things you are describing in your responses could be convincing.
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