[Cimag]

Given it's been 6 months since caribou was banned, I believe that is a considerable time for someone to grow up. Not to mention caribou has tried to appeal his ban multiple times shows his commitment to the community, no? Most people end up leaving after their first ban appeal gets denied. Saying "we might as well unban sweepy if we unban caribou" is almost a laughable statement. Comparing someone that's been banned from this community permanently 3 times to someone who's been banned across multiple communities permanently and was able to accumulate 150+ bans is diabolical.

"Comparing someone that's been banned from this community permanently 3 times to someone who's been banned across multiple communities permanently and was able to accumulate 150+ ban"

You answered your own question, amazing commitment managing to get yourself perma banned not once, but three times, most people don't even bother to get permaed just to appeal and get permaed again don't they?

[FallenDevil]

Can I -1 this a million times? i have -1 on every ban appeal you have submitted. -1 for flaming, -1 for racism, -1 for multi permabans, -1 toxicity ... replying to your ban appeal priceless. I would rather play with a server full of all the sweats than spend a single minute in the game with you ever again. What's the point of perma ban if it gets lifted?

[Market Down]

Your appeal here doesn’t show that anything has changed since the last time you were banned. Just that this 6 month “time out” is enough time away for you. This was a permanent ban, and based on previous appeals it’s the third that you’ve accrued. What’s the point of having permanent bans if they’re going to be lifted in less than a year? You’ve shown the community who you are, what you do, and that you put your own fun over the comfort and safety of other players.

I’ve never even played with you, but I spent a half hour reading though all the others band and appeals. Gonna be a -1 from me.

[Im A Bald Eagle]

Caribou, Caribou, oh Cari- Cari- Cari- Caribou! *POP*

ba-dum dum dum

Oh my little Caribou, tell me why,
You keep giving this appeal a try,
The hole that you’ve dug yourself is so damn deep,
You’ve made so many people weep!

My, oh my, Caribou, Caribou, oh Cari- Cari- Cari- Caribou! *POP*

ba-dum dum dum

It’s not a great look when the silent tryhards,
Are the only ones who’ve got your back,
And the people who make the server fun to play on,
Would rather see you as a Shark’s snack!

So tell me Caribou, Caribou, oh Cari- Cari- Cari- Caribou! *POP*

ba-dum dum dum

I need you to convince me,
Why I’d rather see you on TTT,
Than all the people you’ve scared away,
By being nasty to their face!

Convince me Caribou, Caribou, oh Cari- Cari- Cari- Caribou! *POP*

[Sailboat495]

hate to break it to some of you but there isn't really a way to prove that someone "has changed" if they can't play on the server, unless you're looking for a video of him volunteering at a soup kitchen or an animal shelter. just say you don't like the person (which is valid) and move on - there's no point sugarcoating it with some bs reason lol


also people with permanent bans get unbanned all the time, like people who cheat, mass rdm, troll, etc. permanent bans are usually not permanent, just indefinite

[chibill]

hate to break it to some of you but there isn't really a way to prove that someone "has changed" if they can't play on the server, unless you're looking for a video of him volunteering at a soup kitchen or an animal shelter. just say you don't like the person (which is valid) and move on - there's no point sugarcoating it with some bs reason lol


also people with permanent bans get unbanned all the time, like people who cheat, mass rdm, troll, etc. permanent bans are usually not permanent, just indefinite

Stoke every time he has been perma banned for hitting the max awarn threshold he has claimed he has changed in the appeal, then we unban him eventually and the cycle repeats.   

How many times of someone claiming they have changed but proving they haven't at all is enough?

[Market Down]

also people with permanent bans get unbanned all the time, like people who cheat, mass rdm, troll, etc. permanent bans are usually not permanent, just indefinite

Most of those I’ve seen unbanned from permas in the last 6 months are bans from YEARS ago asking for another chance. Who don’t have a track record nearly as long as this one.

This is 3 separate permanent bans for the same behavior.

[Sailboat495]

hate to break it to some of you but there isn't really a way to prove that someone "has changed" if they can't play on the server, unless you're looking for a video of him volunteering at a soup kitchen or an animal shelter. just say you don't like the person (which is valid) and move on - there's no point sugarcoating it with some bs reason lol


also people with permanent bans get unbanned all the time, like people who cheat, mass rdm, troll, etc. permanent bans are usually not permanent, just indefinite

Stoke every time he has been perma banned for hitting the max awarn threshold he has claimed he has changed in the appeal, then we unban him eventually and the cycle repeats.   

How many times of someone claiming they have changed but proving they haven't at all is enough?

I'd argue a decent chunk of those warns/bans, like the one that resulted from skullfire warning him for "harassment" which led to a perm ban, was weak as hell and and basically hypocritical harassment from the staff instead (who himself has gotten banned for actually harassing others).

[bunniey]

I'm +1 still. I know we can't directly vouch for your behavior very well since our circles don't meet outside of TTT and we can't see how you play if you can't play, so we have to rely heavily a trust factor, which isn't entirely there based on your history. But, I'm willing to extend that trust to fall on your group of friends. I've always enjoyed playing with them, and they've been especially fun lately without some of the brief stints of toxicity of the past, so I'm entirely willing to extend that feeling to you as well. In the past when you've been acting out, people in your group of friends have also been acting out (as do all friend groups here), so I like to think you'll follow suit. Even without that, I think enough time has passed to let you back with one of those short leash things the kids keep talking about.

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Also to touch on a few other points because I didn't realize this was two pages.

It being "low effort" means nothing after someone has appealed the same thing multiple times, there's just not much more to say that wasn't said in the last few appeals. Trust me, I'd know.

It's been nine months. I know not a year or whatever still, but 50% more than six months is a lot.

The nature of his bans are also very social, so they're a lot easier to get rid if it happens again because it's not some like lowkey stuff that's hard to detect, it's really really easy to see and deal with pretty much immediately when it happens. So that helps a bit, too.

Also, TDawg did say things are trending positively, so I think in general we should be more welcoming to this with time, not less.

[chibill]

hate to break it to some of you but there isn't really a way to prove that someone "has changed" if they can't play on the server, unless you're looking for a video of him volunteering at a soup kitchen or an animal shelter. just say you don't like the person (which is valid) and move on - there's no point sugarcoating it with some bs reason lol


also people with permanent bans get unbanned all the time, like people who cheat, mass rdm, troll, etc. permanent bans are usually not permanent, just indefinite

Stoke every time he has been perma banned for hitting the max awarn threshold he has claimed he has changed in the appeal, then we unban him eventually and the cycle repeats.   

How many times of someone claiming they have changed but proving they haven't at all is enough?

I'd argue a decent chunk of those warns/bans, like the one that resulted from skullfire warning him for "harassment" which led to a perm ban, was weak as hell and and basically hypocritical harassment from the staff instead (who himself has gotten banned for actually harassing others).

You do know Caribou has literally 1 warn from Skullfire. And that warn is valid.  Additionally it is not fair to the 9 staff that have given him the 10 warns he has to be saying they were harassing him by giving him them.