[chapman]

If he just played silently then what's the issue?

I don't interact with anyone outside of the server due to the weird personalities and CONSTANT DRAMA  . It's not necessarily a bad thing for someone to stay quiet, a lot of you (I hope) are extremely young and act like this game is the end all be all of life and it's not. I do agree with someone when they said if you guys are just going to keep your mind made up on the same decision without being reasonable, why don't you ban him permanently from the forums since it's clear you guys are not open to letting him back in no matter what he does.


Another edit: He just wants to play with his friends, so why can't you guys look at another option in regarding to perma gagging or muting him for a extended period of time?

The weird personalities and constant drama are the ultimate reason why most people leave or don't interact on discord; I know in my own case that's one of the major reasons I stopped playing.

Don't get me wrong, I'd never consider myself friends with him because in the past I have found him to be divisive and rude to people I consider to be friends, but that stuff was... too long ago for me to remember. I don't particularly like him, but I don't care enough to waste my energy being angry with someone I'll never meet.


Although I understand the sentiment of "oh wow, he's always going to be a jerk and has proven it over and over again," I don't understand how unbanning him with a tight leash isn't a fair outcome; especially if people cannot find the reasoning for why he was banned (Ryan gave the last warn), why is there such a resistance to the tight chain approach? It's worked for others in the past because even if they mess up, boom they're gone again.

Perhaps if people made strives to be more forgiving and not on holding unhealthy ONLINE grudges, we'd have a lot less issues with community engagement amongst ourselves.

[d33r]

that is the weakest warn I've ever seen.

 I can think of one...

[cherry (2)]

i wasn't going to say anything because the last time i was playing more regularly, i was being told of rumors going around between caribou and i which pushed me to ultimately stop playing from the negative bias i was getting due to that (and me calling people cr*ckers w/e idc). this is coming from a neutral standpoint as i don't talk to caribou let alone have him added on anything.

looking at the reason that got his warn threshold pushed to a permaban looks so insanely weak. the staff that had mishandled the slay/mass rdm apologized, caribou ignored him (i would've too), then that staff says something snarky after fixing their mistake? that's obnoxious. also the response looks pretty tame. if there isn't anything more than whats been shown, this just looks like a lame excuse to push for a "pest" to finally be booted by staff.

it doesn't even seem like caribou wants to interact with anyone other than his friends anyways which i can understand. it'd probably be the best for him and everyone else anyways. you could make the argument that if he wants to just play with his friends, they can play other games or on a different server, but it looks like his friends just simply enjoy this specific server over others. they probably do play different games together, but ultimately who wants to feel left out while their friends are having fun?

i think it's pretty ridiculous to continuously allow him to make ban appeals if they're just going to be denied anyways. i feel like this appeal should just be accepted and the warn points be removed. if he proves that he won't stop being toxic, just simply add the warn points and permaban again with no chance of appeal for a certain amount of time, or don't. just don't have it out for him with such a lame excuse for a warn/ban. 

[HONG]

i think it's pretty ridiculous to continuously allow him to make ban appeals if they're just going to be denied anyways. i feel like this appeal should just be accepted and the warn points be removed. if he proves that he won't stop being toxic, just simply add the warn points and permaban again with no chance of appeal for a certain amount of time, or don't. just don't have it out for him with such a lame excuse for a warn/ban. 

truth nuke, even the dude that issued the warn no longer agrees with it

any excuses that remain are usually total weak sauce like this:

Most people that have +1 are part of the same "clique"

or just blatant cases of "yeah i was wrong about the warn reason, but you still suck"

if he is in fact still as bad as those who oppose an unban say, then it shouldn't take long for him to get banned again; like others have said just keep a short leash (growls) and keep him banned if he does something again, its gotten to the point where even those who hate him are willing to give him a chance

[茶 Tea]

seems like there should be a system wherein admins can put in a reason why they issued a warn or ban

[Cimag]

i think it's pretty ridiculous to continuously allow him to make ban appeals if they're just going to be denied anyways. i feel like this appeal should just be accepted and the warn points be removed. if he proves that he won't stop being toxic, just simply add the warn points and permaban again with no chance of appeal for a certain amount of time, or don't. just don't have it out for him with such a lame excuse for a warn/ban. 

truth nuke, even the dude that issued the warn no longer agrees with it

any excuses that remain are usually total weak sauce like this:

Most people that have +1 are part of the same "clique"

or just blatant cases of "yeah i was wrong about the warn reason, but you still suck"

if he is in fact still as bad as those who oppose an unban say, then it shouldn't take long for him to get banned again; like others have said just keep a short leash (growls) and keep him banned if he does something again, its gotten to the point where even those who hate him are willing to give him a chance

? Why you pointing that out in this appeal but when he complained of said "clique" didn't point out anything? The comment isn't out of the blue, is following his same logic

Plus didn't know harassment is a "weak sauce", if he was as willing to growth as other people pointed out he wouldn't have re occurred in the same behavior twice, it's gotten to the point where those who have had bad experiences with him don't want him unbanned again ^2

[PandaInPants]

I’m the one that issued the warn, and after searching through discord and my recordings, I can’t for the life of me figure out what I was thinking with this. I gotta believe that there was more to it, but I just can’t find it.

+1 for unban and warn deletion

Bro banned the guy then denied his appeal twice then on the third try a year later after resigning from ttt admin says bro shouldn’t have been banned and was a big whoopsie …

[bunniey]

Okay, feel the need to step in. Loooots of just things entirely not about the appeal happening, some shitposting, some insults. Keep it chill and to the appeal plsty

[JesseTheUndeadCowboy]

i think it's pretty ridiculous to continuously allow him to make ban appeals if they're just going to be denied anyways. i feel like this appeal should just be accepted and the warn points be removed. if he proves that he won't stop being toxic, just simply add the warn points and permaban again with no chance of appeal for a certain amount of time, or don't. just don't have it out for him with such a lame excuse for a warn/ban. 

truth nuke, even the dude that issued the warn no longer agrees with it

any excuses that remain are usually total weak sauce like this:

Most people that have +1 are part of the same "clique"

or just blatant cases of "yeah i was wrong about the warn reason, but you still suck"

if he is in fact still as bad as those who oppose an unban say, then it shouldn't take long for him to get banned again; like others have said just keep a short leash (growls) and keep him banned if he does something again, its gotten to the point where even those who hate him are willing to give him a chance

? Why you pointing that out in this appeal but when he complained of said "clique" didn't point out anything? The comment isn't out of the blue, is following his same logic

Plus didn't know harassment is a "weak sauce", if he was as willing to growth as other people pointed out he wouldn't have re occurred in the same behavior twice, it's gotten to the point where those who have had bad experiences with him don't want him unbanned again ^2

Thats wild calling the last warning he got harassment, when ryan himself even said the warn should be removed and was even for an unban, considering ryan is the one who did the warn. If the warning that he got banned for had fucking more substance other then asab then the ban would be valid but this is just..... it just seems like a circus at that point. Also how the fuck is this appeal still up its already at almost 10 pages with ryan already saying he wasnt sure what he was thinking with the warning that got him banned lol.

[Cimag]

i think it's pretty ridiculous to continuously allow him to make ban appeals if they're just going to be denied anyways. i feel like this appeal should just be accepted and the warn points be removed. if he proves that he won't stop being toxic, just simply add the warn points and permaban again with no chance of appeal for a certain amount of time, or don't. just don't have it out for him with such a lame excuse for a warn/ban. 

truth nuke, even the dude that issued the warn no longer agrees with it

any excuses that remain are usually total weak sauce like this:

Most people that have +1 are part of the same "clique"

or just blatant cases of "yeah i was wrong about the warn reason, but you still suck"

if he is in fact still as bad as those who oppose an unban say, then it shouldn't take long for him to get banned again; like others have said just keep a short leash (growls) and keep him banned if he does something again, its gotten to the point where even those who hate him are willing to give him a chance

? Why you pointing that out in this appeal but when he complained of said "clique" didn't point out anything? The comment isn't out of the blue, is following his same logic

Plus didn't know harassment is a "weak sauce", if he was as willing to growth as other people pointed out he wouldn't have re occurred in the same behavior twice, it's gotten to the point where those who have had bad experiences with him don't want him unbanned again ^2

Thats wild calling the last warning he got harassment, when ryan himself even said the warn should be removed and was even for an unban, considering ryan is the one who did the warn. If the warning that he got banned for had fucking more substance other then asab then the ban would be valid but this is just..... it just seems like a circus at that point. Also how the fuck is this appeal still up its already at almost 10 pages with ryan already saying he wasnt sure what he was thinking with the warning that got him banned lol.

Oh yeah my bad, I forgot is only his last warning the only thing he's known for :(