[Ethan]

The only times I've seen someone banned for mass via incendiary was either 1. Doing it multiple times despite being warned. @Penguinslayer4 remembers. Or 2. They did it intentionally, well aware of what they did. Staff are encouraged to use discretion in nearly all aspects. Perhaps some mistakes happen, but we aren't robots. I fully believe in perma banning someone who intentionally RDMs multiple people. They ruin the fun of the game for multiple people. If they desire to come back they can make an unban request. The act of making the request itself shows an actual "want" to be unbanned.

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Also nobody should be getting banned or slayed for crossfire @"Saitama" . I'm not sure what you even mean.

I completely agree with you on everything you say about staff discretion and how RDMers ruin the fun of the game for everyone involved, but I also agree with what Russ had to say in terms of the length more than what you had to say. 

I have to believe that a 6 month - 1 year ban length has a better effect that an actual permanent ban (which is the protocol, staff discretion aside). Sure, some people never learn and will come back after their (long enough) term ban and just mass RDM again. Those types can be perm banned and I dont think anyone would disagree. 

But then there are the (moreso of a majority) others who just act like an idiot and mass, but eventually grow up and learn not to do that. 

You have to think about it in this aspect: if you stopped playing GMod for a year or longer but then one day decide to come back, try joining a TTT server and get the "You are banned!" message. What do you do? Find a forum and make a ban request to join this random server? No. You find a different TTT server and play there instead. Maybe you end up enjoying it and play there regularly instead. That's one more regular for Dinks that is lost