[thunderwalrusinnthebar]

Hey, I recently got slain for killing someone who was using a grapple hook unannounced. The rules seem to state this is kosable, and there's nothing saying otherwise.

"Having a traitor item while unproven. This includes Secret Objective Knives on Maps applicable. You can find the full List of Traitor / Non Traitor Items here..."

On the list of traitor items, it says grapple hook. While, yes, it does say it is also a detective item, the rules say absolutely nothing about that being different in any way.

I understand staff discretion is a thing, it's a bit frustrating to be slain for it instead of warned, since the rules directly tell me it's okay.



Secondary gripe: People keep using the grapple hook exploit and nobody seems to be enforcing the rule against it. This has happened often enough that I actually didn't know there was a rule against it until today. I thought it was just an exploit like bhopping that nobody gives a shit about

Having T shop items are not kosable if you take them off of a T. Just now I shot you when you had a homrun bat. If you wouldve reported me I wouldve slain myself as you were double proven. Additionally, an item that is the Detective shop is not kosable as the detective could have given it to you.