Bring back Ernie Emote
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(06-24-2020, 01:41 AM)Whitney Houston\s Bath Water Wrote:
(06-24-2020, 01:12 AM)DoYouLiftBro Wrote:
(06-24-2020, 12:59 AM)Whitney Houston\s Bath Water Wrote:
(06-24-2020, 12:22 AM)Ckg Wrote:
(06-22-2020, 01:12 AM)Whitney Houston\s Bath Water Wrote: I feel hours followed by increasing punishment is much more effective than a large consequence instantly.
Instantly? Man had 11 total warnings, that’s more than enough time to realize something you’re doing is wrong.
  Warns have been used to finalize a grand finale punishment, and that's my point. These warnings are nothing but in-game "badboi points" which I find completely ineffective. A lot of these given warns I've seen show a delay of action and consequence. You could argue a warn is a consequence, but they are the lowest forms of reinforcement. It's very easy to issue a swift punishment to nip the actions of players in the bud than it is to give them a badboi point. It's not about how many points should equal a punishment, it should be about how fast you can defuse a situation or player in a reasonable timeframe. Any form of banning punishment of >24 hours can actually do surprising well as a break period instead of a larger punishment which tends to generate animosity. This isn't simply about Ernesto and his large number of warns; as it applies to most scenarios.

Im responding to this line, and in particular, Ernest here had already received a temp ban because he had been micspamming a ton.  You would think that  a ban of >24 hours would work.  Some people however do not know how to take a clue and instead he came back and continued to do so.  He knows it, yet he continues to do it.  That in part is why he has racked up the amount of warnings he has.  

Ill continue to respond to the rest of this.  Warns are supposed to keep a record of those who consistently break the rules, allowing us to see their history of past rule breaking.  We still stick to our punishment guideline and warns should help a person knock off what ever behavior they are participating in better than a verbal reminder.  When someone has reached the amount of warns like ernest has here, staff discretion comes into play.  In this case, the admin used staff discretion to issue a longer temporary ban that will hopefully get him to learn.

And I guess since I am here,  Ernest just serve the rest of the ban bro.  You know better.
  It's very similar to looking under a microscope for every infraction. I've always considered stacking warns a very poor way to handle situations. I'm going to avoid nitpicking players I've played with tonight, but the warn system is just odd on how it's used. 11 warns is a very high number, but how many warns can a player receive in such a small timeframe before actual punishment is taken to prevent that player from garnering more? As I previously mentioned, imo, it's being used to microscope players to justify large punishments. The warn system isn't horrible as you mentioned it's equivalent to the ulx whitelist which notifies staff of users actions, but I dislike the implementation and how I've seen it used. Where is this staff discretion used to prevent the player from stacking warns upon warns? It does not seem fair, though, I do agree Ernie had it coming and I'm not justifying his actions.

 It's no doubt that Ernie is pushing boundaries, but these warns cannot be classified as punishments. I think it's unfair to be lenient, trap him into a self-sustained "warn corner" and then punishing him more intensely.
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Messages In This Thread
Bring back Ernie Emote - by Ernest - 06-21-2020, 09:48 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Battons - 06-21-2020, 09:50 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Ernest - 06-21-2020, 09:52 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Cryptic Salsa - 06-21-2020, 09:56 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Ernest - 06-21-2020, 10:01 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by RussEfarmer - 06-21-2020, 10:01 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Battons - 06-21-2020, 10:06 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Ernest - 06-21-2020, 10:11 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Geist ❤ - 06-21-2020, 10:09 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Noire - 06-21-2020, 10:16 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Ernest - 06-21-2020, 10:24 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Noire - 06-21-2020, 10:28 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Ernest - 06-21-2020, 10:36 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Noire - 06-21-2020, 10:45 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Ernest - 06-21-2020, 10:56 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by ding - 06-21-2020, 10:20 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Battons - 06-21-2020, 10:57 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Laced Xanax - 06-22-2020, 01:07 AM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Ckg - 06-24-2020, 12:22 AM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by DoYouLiftBro - 06-24-2020, 01:12 AM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Foxka oops - 06-24-2020, 11:43 AM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Ckg - 06-24-2020, 12:01 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Happy Mirror - 06-22-2020, 03:42 AM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Foxka oops - 06-22-2020, 05:33 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Ernest - 06-22-2020, 07:12 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Foxka oops - 06-22-2020, 07:51 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Ernest - 06-22-2020, 08:36 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Abdel - 06-22-2020, 10:32 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Ernest - 06-23-2020, 03:56 AM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Foxka oops - 06-23-2020, 07:10 AM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Ckg - 06-24-2020, 01:58 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by ding - 06-24-2020, 01:53 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Dirty Corn Husker - 06-24-2020, 02:38 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Knee Coal Bowlass - 06-24-2020, 03:15 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Battons - 06-24-2020, 02:48 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Ernest - 06-24-2020, 04:43 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Ckg - 06-24-2020, 09:06 PM
RE: Bring back Ernie Emote - by Knee Coal Bowlass - 06-26-2020, 01:50 PM

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