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Plan E: Blue Shift
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(01-12-2021, 10:36 PM)Battons Wrote: Sorry for the delay on commenting I've been waiting for it to die down a bit. Formally I think evan has a great opportunity to shine in Tmod and reading his responses in this thread alone are very well thought out and purposefully words things in a way to deescalate. Time on the server is irrelevant whether a staff member is good or not. It is important but if he has 1000 hours or only 200 hours doesn't matter, what matters is if he can do the job and if he is willing to improve. Easy +1 from me. Also if you require ban requests like a cop ticket quota you need to rethink what your true goals are here, its a game not a government.

There's two very valid arguments to make about how much time an individual plays/staffs on here. On one side, you're correct that the only thing that matters is whether or not they are willing to improve; on the other, the more time someone has, the higher the expectation should be held for them. Out of all the all the complaints addressed, I personally believe Evan's lack of conviction to enforce rules due to fear of backlash is the biggest offense, and that is why I am at a neutral stance for a promotion. 

The rest is pretty easily fixable, and I'll admit that I have been way too nitpicky with Evan on that; he handled the criticism like a Champ, which is exactly why the vote changed from a -1 to a 0.


Just for Clarification:

-Evan is in no way a terrible staff member. I  have very high expectations for him and hold him to a higher standard than usual Test Mod applicants because I know he can improve to become a better candidate for Test Mod, which is why I have been nitpicky; if that's ridiculous, then so be it. People have made comments about people not making enough ban requests for people in the past, so it isn't a new form of criticism. If I need to, I could pull up the receipts and show threads where staff member hopefuls/ promotion hopefuls were denied due to a lack of them. His main issue, as stated above, is confidence. Once he fixes this, it'll be quite possibly the easiest +1 ever.

- I felt justified with everything I said; I also in no way was just trying to troll/be an asshole for no reason. It seemed that the way people responded to not only my criticism but CKG's as if we were simply being assholes for no reason, and eagerly rushed to defend him by both -1'ing us and making huge dramatizations and reaching out for conclusions that simply were not true and seemed like childish misunderstandings, just to be blunt. 

-You(I'm not talking about you specifically here Battons) cannot sit here and get angry about people taking a staff app seriously by giving genuine, honest criticism and then turn around and give the same if not worse criticism on unban requests. As a group in this community, we have to either stay consistent, or don't complain when someone has a legitimate issue with a promotion. To quote dong, HOLD EVERYONE TO THE SAME STANDARD. DO NOT MAKE EXCEPTIONS BECAUSE YOU LIKE OR DISLIKE SOMEONE.

-Again, I'll state this: just because you like someone doesn't mean you can just dismiss any sort of criticism, just like if you dislike someone, you cannot simply dismiss anything they say as "trolling" or "toxicity." 


And with that, I've said practically everything I needed to say on this thread. 



For those of you too lazy to read, here's a TL/DR: 

1. Evan isn't a bad staff member; I just personally hold him to higher expectations and standards because of the amount of time he has put in staffing. Once he fixes his issues with confidence, this will be the easiest promotion ever.

2. You shouldn't just dismiss criticism from someone just because it's from someone you dislike; likewise, you should strive to try and see things from all angles if you're staff, not just support people you like/ criticize people you don't. Props to all of those who didn't just mass -1 CKG and Myself or Foxka when we made takes that not necessarily everyone agreed with.

3. My criticism was not me just being a troll; I meant everything I said; and after this post, I have no intention to make any further comments on this application, as it's almost going to be 7 pages now; I'll take the blame for that since I had an unpopular opinion and came across as an asshole with my initial post. My apologies to you, Evan, for unintentionally turning your thread into a borderline shitshow.


Messages In This Thread
Plan E: Blue Shift - by Evan - 01-08-2021, 06:12 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by Synthray - 01-08-2021, 06:13 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by Jedasis - 01-08-2021, 06:24 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by TheUltraFish - 01-08-2021, 06:41 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by David - 01-08-2021, 09:48 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by Eternal - 01-08-2021, 11:05 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by David - 01-10-2021, 03:35 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by (j)ax - 01-08-2021, 11:14 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by Gabeolo - 01-09-2021, 02:32 AM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by jingle rats - 01-09-2021, 07:08 AM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by Cake - 01-09-2021, 08:51 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by Ckg - 01-10-2021, 03:20 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by JesseTheUndeadCowboy - 01-10-2021, 03:30 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by Penguinslayer4 - 01-10-2021, 03:37 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by David - 01-10-2021, 03:52 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by Ckg - 01-11-2021, 10:13 AM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by Evan - 01-11-2021, 02:01 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by David - 01-11-2021, 05:57 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by Deer-ly - 01-11-2021, 06:00 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by David - 01-11-2021, 06:14 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by Jammin - 01-11-2021, 06:15 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by Jammin - 01-10-2021, 03:50 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by Jammin - 01-10-2021, 04:20 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by August - 01-10-2021, 04:26 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by Evan - 01-10-2021, 05:04 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by David - 01-10-2021, 06:31 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by Penguinslayer4 - 01-10-2021, 10:18 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by David - 01-10-2021, 11:06 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by KaptainLes - 01-10-2021, 10:56 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by Jammin - 01-11-2021, 12:17 AM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by Mana - 01-11-2021, 02:09 AM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by Deer-ly - 01-11-2021, 02:26 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by (j)ax - 01-11-2021, 02:27 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by JesseTheUndeadCowboy - 01-11-2021, 10:04 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by David - 01-11-2021, 10:12 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by Evan - 01-11-2021, 11:26 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by Evan - 01-12-2021, 12:38 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by Paimon - 01-11-2021, 10:53 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by David - 01-11-2021, 11:04 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by Synthray - 01-12-2021, 12:25 AM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by RussEfarmer - 01-12-2021, 01:27 AM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by honest dan - 01-12-2021, 02:38 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by ding - 01-12-2021, 05:11 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by Knee Coal Bowlass - 01-12-2021, 05:12 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by Raider Hanks - 01-12-2021, 05:46 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by Battons - 01-12-2021, 10:36 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by David - 01-12-2021, 11:38 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by Jammin - 01-16-2021, 12:57 PM
RE: Plan E: Blue Shift - by Knee Coal Bowlass - 01-16-2021, 06:29 PM

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