[[Yellow] Travis1421]

I think you guys are forgetting that a perma isn't a "permanent ban". It's an indefinite ban that allows for those who actually want to come back to make the effort to come back. Most appealed permas are successful. You should allow for discretion to be kept in these decisions. Putting a value on it sets a precedent that could and most likely will be brought down. It'll go from 2 years, to 1 year, to 6 months and eventually it'll eventually become a problem with lessened punishment. At the end of the day leaving it at indefinite allows for the admin team to keep discretion on when people break the rules.