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Killing someone for killing an inno
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(09-27-2018, 03:24 PM)Laced Xanax Wrote:
(09-27-2018, 12:31 PM)duckyy Wrote: So in conclusion...
If detective saw what happened and still continue to take DNA and kill the person. The slay shall fall onto them if the victim felt threatened from the KOS and RDM when detective was obviously and clearly watching.
If the detective isn't there and just randomly took DNA based on body calling from other players, shouldn't be RDM since they were unaware of the situation and they were called to the body for either credits or find culprit.

This is my thoughts about this situation. It's simple. It's either a douchebag or a nice friendly player.

See, I was the Detective in this situation, and I did not see it happen. I found Jimbo's body, got the DNA, and it led to Guru, which is why I killed him.

The reason I was slain is because I failed to pay attention to the chat, as Guru had called out why he killed Jimbo (Jimbo contests that Guru didn't give him enough time to stop what he was doing, but that's a story for another day.) and I killed Guru anyways.

To clarify "enough time", Jimbo pulled me off the ledge once with grapple.  It took about ten seconds to return to my previous location after warning him to stop.  He grappled me a second time off the ledge, and shot him.  I believe ten seconds is plenty of time.

Had I been Innocent, Detective, or Traitor, the situation would have been the same result in terms of DNA from his grapple abuse.  Had I been detective, Laced likely would not have shot me.

(09-27-2018, 11:47 AM)matt_st3 (Strongrule) Wrote: Ah now dna is another thing. Problem is, Rdmr A tried to kill Innocent B. B wins the fight bc it’s jimbo. Deftective C didn’t hear jimbo call this out (from what I’ve seen most people DO say when someone tried to RDM them) and just sees and gets dna from the body. He walks up to jimbo and kill him with a shotgun. Is jimbo in the wrong? No.
But did the detective shoot an innocent who protected himself by using gameplay mechanics? Yes.
RDM puts a wrinkle in the mechanics of the game, and causes confusion that shouldn’t be there. MUST the detective believe a call out of RDM? No. What if the detective saw the exchange, said jumbo was ok, does, and an Inno picks up the scanner and kills jimbo. Did the innocent rdm seeing the DNA from a detective? No, he is following a gameplay mechanic. Ideally (without RDM) innocent dna should never be on an Inno body.
Keep in mind, RDM is RANDOM deathmatch. DNA isn’t random, even tho it may point to someone who was defending themselves. Staff have to look at the report and use some brain cells to see if the killer holding DNA should know or not (witnessed the exchange or other equivalent) that the Inno shot first.
Here’s a fun chain: RDMr A shoots Inno B, who kills A. Inno C has a dna scanner and catches the dna, follows and kills B. However, Inno D saw the original exchange and then sees C kill B. So D kills C. This exchange can chain longer. B defended themselves, C has DNA, and D sees someone kill B for defending themselves. 3 innocents are dead but each kill was made for a valid reason. RDM and miscommunication happen. Note C never called the DNA out.
Stupid stuff like that happens a lot. I’ve seen links of up to 5 chained reports or a mass shooting happen over a single rdm.
So, I don’t know. If DNA is always kosable a lot of RDM can happen as a result, but if it’s not then a mechanic is thrown out. As staff i use this above discretion of what information the players have available to them, and go from there.

I have seen such a chain before, as being Innocent D in a chain of five dead innocents from Innocent B rdming Innocent A ( or vice versa ).  Slender map where one by one an innocent was rdm'd by killing an rdming player in a chain over ten seconds, creating a pile of bodies in a single location.  Innocent F didn't die from killing Innocent E once sanity was called for, but I believe even with the chain RDM, innocents still won that round.
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Killing someone for killing an inno - by Stingray - 09-26-2018, 10:17 PM
RE: Killing someone for killing an inno - by Guru Drak - 09-27-2018, 07:34 PM

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