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Address to PH Staff
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(12-10-2018, 11:14 AM)Gabe Wrote:
(12-10-2018, 10:29 AM)Dinkleberg > Wrote: If anyone has any further questions/concerns regarding staff conduct please bring them up here and I'll address them. Thanks to everyone who has posted so far.

Yes hello, I have one small thing to add regarding this. I know this is very miniscule compared to everything else but if my memory does not fail me, I was on ph one time and I was instantly muted by a staff member for providing someone a link to a thread that they were having trouble finding on our forums.

I get the rule of "no advertising" and being told by that person "no links at all" afterwards, but does it really count if it's our own forums we're talking about? In my personal opinion it really doesn't as if anything it's advertising ourselves and doesn't harm anyone in a bad way.

I don't mean to start any drama with this or anything, just thought it could use some clarification for the future.
Thanks for bringing this up. This is a prime example of what I'm trying to get at with this post. You should have never been muted in the first place because that's a dinklebergs link, but even if you put up a link that was something else you should have been warned and only muted if the behavior persisted. This is a prime example of staff members being too anxious to use their powers, and I want to see heavy  warning before punishment in this type of situation.

(12-10-2018, 12:08 PM)matt_st3 (Strongrule) Wrote:
(12-10-2018, 11:14 AM)Gabe Wrote:
(12-10-2018, 10:29 AM)Dinkleberg > Wrote: If anyone has any further questions/concerns regarding staff conduct please bring them up here and I'll address them. Thanks to everyone who has posted so far.

Yes hello, I have one small thing to add regarding this. I know this is very miniscule compared to everything else but if my memory does not fail me, I was on ph one time and I was instantly muted by a staff member for providing someone a link to a thread that they were having trouble finding on our forums.

I get the rule of "no advertising" and being told by that person "no links at all" afterwards, but does it really count if it's our own forums we're talking about? In my personal opinion it really doesn't as if anything it's advertising ourselves and doesn't harm anyone in a bad way.

I don't mean to start any drama with this or anything, just thought it could use some clarification for the future.
There should be no issue with “advertising” our own servers. Our forums, discord, and other game modes should not be muted. If it comes to the point that there is excessive posting or talk, such as spamming a staff app link or a player trying to convince players to play a different game mode multiple times, then request the player to stop. If they don’t, this can be considered general spam that is talking away from the gameplay. Remember that general conversation is fine, as both TTT and PH communities hold conversations in game not about the gameplay, but use discretion on what may be excessive.

Some notes for the PH staff - I have seen some immediate mutes/ gags on things like the general phrase “shut up” for disrespect. Most of the time this phrase does not warrant an immediate punishment. If the player is trolling/harassing or being overly rude it may warrant, but something like “hey shut up the detective is dead” wouldn’t be worth. 
There have also been some bans for racism or disrespect that are a strong reach on the definition. Dink has said his piece there.
Regarding what Matt brought up in the last paragraph of his post, this is another big thing I'm getting at in this post. Phrases like "shut up" or even cuss words should be warned several times before commands are used on that person. We have rules that state that disrespect and things along those lines are punished with a verbal warning and then a mute/gag, so let's start enforcing the rules as they are written. And yes, I've already touched on the whole racism thing, let's just sorta try to take a step back and warn more often than punish when it comes to what people say.

(12-10-2018, 12:24 PM)happy Wrote: I'm sorry if this is stupid to ask, but I've noticed that in some of the ban requests people hide in illegal spots to catch whoever cheating. If anyone else hid in an illegal spots they would be warned and be punished if they refused to move. I guess what I'm getting at is could you please clarify if there is ever an acceptable time for anyone to be hiding in an illegal spot.

This is not stupid to ask, and I don't see it as appropriate for staff to be hiding in illegal spots. Aimbots should be pretty obvious, and that's about the only time I'd see that as relevant.

(12-10-2018, 12:58 PM)[Yellow] Travis1421 Wrote: I'd also like to have a clarification on the team switching rules. When I was a Moderator we allowed people to swap on their first round. Which means whether it was the first round of the game or if they were 0-0. It was enforced by staff paying attention to who is leaving and coming back to be on the another team. I have heard so many different instances of this rule and would like to know what is an official ruling.

Thanks for bringing this up Travis. I think that team switching should be something we look for excessively, but someone doing it once isn't a huge deal. For instance, someone joining the server and wanting to switch teams after more people to join to be with their friend is fine. What's not fine is someone constantly switching teams to get to play as props over and over again. This is why the rule exists. This is a rule that requires a bit of staff discretion, but I'd say the main thing would be to look for it in excess. If someone just simply switches once and it's not an issue, let it slide. Try to apply the "chill" overtone to this rules' enforcement, and only step in when it becomes an issue.

(12-10-2018, 01:08 PM)Midnight Wrote: Another concerning rules is ghosting oneself. I keep hearing do NOT ghost if you're the last prop alive OR you're allowed to ghost yourself whenever. This needs to be fixed. One staff member (which I won't name), follows the old rules back in 2017 or in the past years and this confuses either me or other veteran players.

I don't normally give away my position or what prop I am, this still confused me regarding to the rule.

Yes, as potato said, there's no reason people aren't allowed to ghost themselves. Stupid, yes, but some people will try to find any way to bend the rules that they can. One thing to look out for is people who go hide with someone else and ghost their spots together, this would be considered ghosting another player and would be punishable.

Sorry these posts are super long and wordy, but a lot of concerns and questions are getting addressed in single posts. All PH staff members please be sure to take the time to look through these posts.


Messages In This Thread
Address to PH Staff - by Dinkleberg >:( - 12-09-2018, 07:56 PM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by HalfDemonLink - 12-09-2018, 08:08 PM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by TheUltraFish - 12-09-2018, 08:10 PM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by Dinkleberg >:( - 12-09-2018, 08:14 PM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by JustKuono - 12-09-2018, 08:42 PM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by Kasumi - 12-09-2018, 09:06 PM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by Smurfmin - 12-09-2018, 09:54 PM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by Dinkleberg >:( - 12-10-2018, 10:29 AM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by Gabe - 12-10-2018, 11:14 AM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by Mr.Potato - 12-10-2018, 12:14 PM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by Dinkleberg >:( - 12-10-2018, 01:15 PM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by §6SEMBER_UNO - 12-10-2018, 03:25 AM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by happy - 12-10-2018, 12:24 PM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by [Yellow] Travis1421 - 12-10-2018, 12:58 PM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by [Yellow] Travis1421 - 12-10-2018, 02:00 PM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by Dinkleberg >:( - 12-14-2018, 10:23 AM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by merlinhimself - 12-14-2018, 11:50 AM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by Smurfmin - 12-10-2018, 02:25 PM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by §dLaced Angel - 12-11-2018, 09:11 AM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by Old Man Voss - 12-11-2018, 05:34 PM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by Dakota - 12-11-2018, 06:18 PM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by Mr.Potato - 12-14-2018, 10:57 AM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by [Yellow] Travis1421 - 12-14-2018, 11:36 AM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by HalfDemonLink - 12-14-2018, 11:55 AM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by Yeezy Jeezy - 12-14-2018, 12:26 PM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by [Yellow] Travis1421 - 12-14-2018, 12:49 PM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by JustKuono - 12-14-2018, 01:22 PM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by Old Man Voss - 12-14-2018, 01:52 PM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by queef commando - 12-14-2018, 05:13 PM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by [Yellow] Travis1421 - 12-14-2018, 09:34 PM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by HalfDemonLink - 12-14-2018, 05:30 PM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by Smurfmin - 12-14-2018, 10:11 PM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by [Yellow] Travis1421 - 12-15-2018, 12:34 AM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by Orthero Gaming - 03-29-2019, 06:38 PM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by Tedgp908 >:( - 03-29-2019, 06:44 PM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by ritsuneru - 03-29-2019, 06:56 PM
RE: Address to PH Staff - by Laced Xanax - 03-29-2019, 07:13 PM

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