08-27-2019, 02:51 PM
It isn’t quite as simple as calling it mob mentality or that all the admins lost their mind. There some truth to both depending how you look at it.
Sure the community is in an uproar over it, but I wouldn’t call this a mob mentality. For one, there are those that will agree wholly, tho most likely only partially, with the decision but do not speak up because 1) they never do or 2) the side against spoke first and they don’t like confrontation or 3) they are afraid of personal backlash. And so on with the personal reasons. On the other end, many that oppose this decision disagree with the magnitude of the punishment for either all or certain individuals. Each has done something to a different degree, and only imo one or two could deserve a community ban. Hell a lot had nothing to do with PH as far as I’m concerned, and since we’re allowing inactive admins to decide I doubt they contacted Kenny. Could be wrong. And many who are voicing anti-admin opinions have had said opinions long before this decision. To them this is yet another reason.
Admin-staff-community communication has always been a struggle, and most of the current admin+ are not doing anything to fix that. But just as I won’t say everyone in the community is one hive mind, neither are the admins. Perhaps some were opposed. I get the distinct feeling this was a push from a couple to the rest and the timing seems either acted on too late or too early. I’m leaning early, with the distinct lack of evidence to punishment ratio. Much of this could have been prevented with earlier actions or a proper punishment, eg demote, temp bans, or forum/discord bans.
Honestly, dink is too inactive to hold some immediate clean house and not have it train wreck the community. It’s a shame because some out of touch ones need to go if they think they are voice of the community. I can’t speak for PH but I will say I think Gabe is the only one actively trying to engage on a community level from TTT. In fact, there are actually 3 admins and the co owner is an admin with backdoor access, so if anyone thinks there are less then that’s a testament to how inactive some are. The number of staff members capable, active enough, and that want to be admins... almost nonexistent at this point.
I’m waiting to see what the response will be. Obviously more needs to be addressed than simply this ban issue.
Sure the community is in an uproar over it, but I wouldn’t call this a mob mentality. For one, there are those that will agree wholly, tho most likely only partially, with the decision but do not speak up because 1) they never do or 2) the side against spoke first and they don’t like confrontation or 3) they are afraid of personal backlash. And so on with the personal reasons. On the other end, many that oppose this decision disagree with the magnitude of the punishment for either all or certain individuals. Each has done something to a different degree, and only imo one or two could deserve a community ban. Hell a lot had nothing to do with PH as far as I’m concerned, and since we’re allowing inactive admins to decide I doubt they contacted Kenny. Could be wrong. And many who are voicing anti-admin opinions have had said opinions long before this decision. To them this is yet another reason.
Admin-staff-community communication has always been a struggle, and most of the current admin+ are not doing anything to fix that. But just as I won’t say everyone in the community is one hive mind, neither are the admins. Perhaps some were opposed. I get the distinct feeling this was a push from a couple to the rest and the timing seems either acted on too late or too early. I’m leaning early, with the distinct lack of evidence to punishment ratio. Much of this could have been prevented with earlier actions or a proper punishment, eg demote, temp bans, or forum/discord bans.
Honestly, dink is too inactive to hold some immediate clean house and not have it train wreck the community. It’s a shame because some out of touch ones need to go if they think they are voice of the community. I can’t speak for PH but I will say I think Gabe is the only one actively trying to engage on a community level from TTT. In fact, there are actually 3 admins and the co owner is an admin with backdoor access, so if anyone thinks there are less then that’s a testament to how inactive some are. The number of staff members capable, active enough, and that want to be admins... almost nonexistent at this point.
I’m waiting to see what the response will be. Obviously more needs to be addressed than simply this ban issue.
Matt_St3 / Strongrule / Spartan001295
Forum Admin - Resigned TTT Admin
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