01-27-2024, 03:15 AM
Not sure how the admins are making decisions on staff apps as we know have quite a backlog... I have been back for 8~ days, and have not seen anyone complain about how Jack has been on the server, discord, forums. So unless someone can point me to something in the last 30 days since he has returned I do not see how trusted is an issue.
I mean we have people who have been community banned "forever" and come back to become staff. You can disagree with this being a thing, but then we need something of a consistent standard. I missed all of 2023~ of Dinks Drama but it seems like all the classic groups were going at it a year ago. Again if someone wants to clarify for me what makes any of this disqualifying now I would appreciate it (might have missed something digging through old threads). I can pull the exact same arguments given by Admins in other contentious applications that would apply here.
Usually it is something like and this is paraphrase not direct quotes: "the position really doesn't have that much power, if they misstep we can just demote, or they talk about how they have seen the person change and that they should be given a chance.
All of these arguments likely apply the same here especially with the additional time since the app was posted. +1
Last thing: I do wonder what the road map should be for people who have been banned/demoted ect.. for harassment or toxic type issues. I see more and more people who consistently play with no issues on the server who historically have "major beef." I would hope the response when someone comes back (for most people) is excitement as more players especially ones who participate in the greater community is more better. The question should be then is Jack one of these people or is there something that I haven't seen that qualifies him among "those that shall not be named".
Right now the process is to be friends/make friends with someone on the admin team who can pull for you. Maybe admin responses to apps is enough maybe note im open to ideas here.
On a side note
I do think it is a bit frustrating that anyone who has made apps recently if denied will have waited to long to finally get a response then possibly have a "apply again in another month." Likely very demoralizing. I guess we are in a weird place with only 1 real admin currently but these staff apps are really stacking up.
I mean we have people who have been community banned "forever" and come back to become staff. You can disagree with this being a thing, but then we need something of a consistent standard. I missed all of 2023~ of Dinks Drama but it seems like all the classic groups were going at it a year ago. Again if someone wants to clarify for me what makes any of this disqualifying now I would appreciate it (might have missed something digging through old threads). I can pull the exact same arguments given by Admins in other contentious applications that would apply here.
Usually it is something like and this is paraphrase not direct quotes: "the position really doesn't have that much power, if they misstep we can just demote, or they talk about how they have seen the person change and that they should be given a chance.
All of these arguments likely apply the same here especially with the additional time since the app was posted. +1
Last thing: I do wonder what the road map should be for people who have been banned/demoted ect.. for harassment or toxic type issues. I see more and more people who consistently play with no issues on the server who historically have "major beef." I would hope the response when someone comes back (for most people) is excitement as more players especially ones who participate in the greater community is more better. The question should be then is Jack one of these people or is there something that I haven't seen that qualifies him among "those that shall not be named".
Right now the process is to be friends/make friends with someone on the admin team who can pull for you. Maybe admin responses to apps is enough maybe note im open to ideas here.
On a side note
I do think it is a bit frustrating that anyone who has made apps recently if denied will have waited to long to finally get a response then possibly have a "apply again in another month." Likely very demoralizing. I guess we are in a weird place with only 1 real admin currently but these staff apps are really stacking up.
It is not okay to literally tell people their opinions are wrong because they disagree.
