02-10-2024, 04:56 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-10-2024, 04:57 PM by TDawg4. Edited 3 times in total.)
Even ignoring all the other good arguments; from a consistency standpoint the name does not make sense to be allowed under current rules. Forcing a change here would be making a step toward consistent application. I cannot think of an analogous name that would be allowed.
Someone could argue that there should be some carve outs made in the rules for racist/bigoted jokes as long as there aren't complaints, but even in this case it seems like the name is making people uncomfortable so this is a moot point.
At the end of the day everyone calls Goose... well Goose making the name change is not even that much of an imposition.
The comparison being made to tiefling lesbian also does not follow as nothing in the name is attacking or joking about hate against another group. The analogy you are looking for would be a name like "homophobic lesbian" or something with a slur replaced with lesbian to be comparable. Under the same standard
In my opinion, the idea or terms for "anti-semitism" have not been reclaimed in a way that is relevant to other issues like the soft a. I feel the least strongly about this and could be moved.
I think there should be an addition or rule change for clarity, and I would assume that one will be forthcoming as our admins fully settle the issue. That rule change staff probably needs to do a better job enforcing on server. I know that I sometimes miss things for a variety of reasons one of them being that it used to be allowed.
Something to remember is that we have new admins and part of their job is to sometimes make and enforce new rules when relevant to do so even if some people don't like it. You should expect some things to change, and if you disagree, respectfully make a post about it.
Someone could argue that there should be some carve outs made in the rules for racist/bigoted jokes as long as there aren't complaints, but even in this case it seems like the name is making people uncomfortable so this is a moot point.
At the end of the day everyone calls Goose... well Goose making the name change is not even that much of an imposition.
The comparison being made to tiefling lesbian also does not follow as nothing in the name is attacking or joking about hate against another group. The analogy you are looking for would be a name like "homophobic lesbian" or something with a slur replaced with lesbian to be comparable. Under the same standard
In my opinion, the idea or terms for "anti-semitism" have not been reclaimed in a way that is relevant to other issues like the soft a. I feel the least strongly about this and could be moved.
I think there should be an addition or rule change for clarity, and I would assume that one will be forthcoming as our admins fully settle the issue. That rule change staff probably needs to do a better job enforcing on server. I know that I sometimes miss things for a variety of reasons one of them being that it used to be allowed.
Something to remember is that we have new admins and part of their job is to sometimes make and enforce new rules when relevant to do so even if some people don't like it. You should expect some things to change, and if you disagree, respectfully make a post about it.
It is not okay to literally tell people their opinions are wrong because they disagree.
