02-04-2025, 12:26 PM
(02-02-2025, 03:19 PM)TDawg4 Wrote:(02-02-2025, 08:28 AM)grasse Wrote:This is a good catch. Hiding a diamond block somewhere should just be sus. I think it can be framed better, but the kos rule should apply to actively preventing an inno round win. i.e. running away with the last diamond block. This does just apply to inno round victory objectives not just things like secret knife.Quote:i feel like this should not be a KOS and instead moved to suspicion, as i frequently do this on minecraft_b5 because i do not want the round to end via diamond block, i'd rather play through the round than have it end within 2 minutes because every innocent started the easter egg hunt. similarly on simple_dinks its very easy for someone to throw off one of the pieces to where its inaccessible, sabotaging the "innocent objective" unintentionally. does this also apply to more than just innocent-objectives that win them the map, or any easter egg which benefits whoever accomplishes it? examples such as: easter-egg required testers, secret knives/t weapons, or health stations
- Knowingly destroying, sabotaging, or obstructing any map-specific innocent objective
Maybe a better rule would be: "Actively preventing an innocent round win though map-specific objective."
This would still potentially include simple_dinks, but gets rid of the accident part and allows for just general interference to be susable.
If someone has a better way or if yall think it should all just be sus feel free to say so.
Hard disagree with it being susable. As an innocent, you aren't required to assist with the different "innocent" objectives whether those be killing Ts, assisting with map objectives, etc. If you don't wanna help with the objectives, that's fine but blatantly going out of your way to hinder the objective is anti-innocent behavior. That also leads into the grey area of, on minecraft_b5 for example, of putting a diamond block in lava but still being able to reach it. It's still technically complete-able, but you can't see the diamond block in the lava and unless someone saw the diamond block being put in the lava, it essentially makes getting it impossible. It's one thing to just leave it somewhere as is, but attempting to "hinder" innocent progress should be KOSable to me.
(02-03-2025, 12:35 AM)茶 Tea Wrote: i think damaging testers shouldn't be kosable for the same reason hiding diamond blocks shouldn't: they ruin they game and make it less fun to playI mean, "ruining the game" and "making it less fun to play" is subjective. For some, using testers and completing map objectives is fun to them. If you aren't a fan of it, then nominate/vote maps that don't have game ending objectives or traitor testers. In my own opinion, if a map has an innocent objective and someone actively hinders that objective, it's KOSable.
