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So I was gonna make a master post on this last night, then I fell asleep, then I forgot, then FX did this so I'll just throw it here instead so I'm not clogging up the tubes with lizards.

Staff inconsistency, staff discretion, ASAB, and a few 'high profile' bans.

Staff inconsistency. Everyone knows this is a thing. It's not a secret, no one is denying it, but it's definitely an overplayed phrase because it's not really as big of a deal as people make it seem. People see person A get hit with punishment X and person B get hit with punishment Y even though they did the same thing and think that's inconsistency, but they don't stop to think about what went into that decision. Most of the time, the difference between punishments is how often someone offends. If Battons became a cock some day and trolled someone for a few hours and the person didn't like it, yeah he'd be punished, but not nearly as bad as some guest who we don't know getting on and harassing our playerbase. Because Battons has built up some level of trust between himself and the playerbase and the server itself, so we can count it as a misstep, but with a guests, our only knowledge of them is that they decided to get on an be a cunt to our players. We can agree that there is a huge difference between those, correct? And there is a whole level of severity we can get in to. Someone h arassing someone, being told to stop, and doing it once more versus someone harassing someone on the forums, the discord, and in game and being told to stop by people repeatedly, you'll be harder on the latter. (Yes I know you'll say why wasn't the second one punished earlier, but when you have a bunch of staff that don't have regulated shifts, it's impossible to keep everyone on the same page, which is why we have our own discord @"Foxka oops" , because there are things that need to stay between the staff, to help manage that information getting to everyone) So yes, inconsistency exists, it gets very blown out of proportion because of the caveats that go into each decision. If you want to talk about in game stuff, like slays, that's even less of a big deal because most of the time they're fairly on point and when they're not staff almost always own up to it. Shit just happens, we can get over that. In game harassment, mic spam, slurs, ear rape queues, and all that are a whole terrible beast because dealing with them almost always ends up in more of them. There will definitely be times where someone will get muted and someone else won't get muted for the same thing despite the same staff being on both times. The answer to this is really simple, and every staff member or person that has been a staff member or wants to be a staff member will agree. This is not the only thing that staff members have going on.   Literally everyone is doing several things while they play most of the time. Staff are no different. We pay some extra attention, sure, but we're going to miss things, pretty often too, because we have other shit going on. Many of us are in college and are doing homework. I'm starting a business and am working on my website while I play. This is where it gets kicked to the players, some. If someone is doing something that bothers you, PM a staff member. You all have access to our Steams, forums, or discords, most likely, as well as in game. We aren't going to catch everything, so if someone is bothering you, collect some evidence and tell us and we'll figure something out.


That pretty much hit staff discretion and inconsistency, so ASAB is next. ASAB does not help anything. The same people that yell asab constantly are the ones that scream about staff inconsistency and discretion, yet they constantly do things that make us have to dish out punishments in defiance of the staff, yet don't see the vicious circle they create with it. If you really have an issue, open up a civil dialogue, don't just ree on server and expect us to react kindly. Having to deal with a dozen people mic spamming asab and spamming  chat with asab after one warranted slay is just annoying, to say the least. Especially since most of the people who are parts of the problem  pop up on every ban appeal like sad eyed puppies pretending they aren't actually doing anything wrong. Like, several of you I've talked to directly and the second I am like "I'm not mad at you, I just am asking you to stop this" you'll do it. I don't want to have to speak to people like they're children to get them to stop trolling, it would be nice for there to be some give and take. If you have issues with donors and staff that go beyond what's possible for DMs between you and whoever you have the problem with, contact a higher up or make an abuse thread with evidence. Big key word, though, always have evidence. That's one big thing. People bring up issues often but don't give out evidence, and unlike @"Prince Nicky La Flama Blanca" , your evidence is not your word, it doesn't really work like that. Give us something to work off, we really want to help and want the server to be better. The  fracture between the staff and some of the playerbase isn't something we want, we're actively trying to better it, but the second a punishment happens it gets worse despite you guys getting on, reading the !motd, noting that there is going to be punishments for several actions, and continuing doing them. That's pretty much all I have on that. asab asab asab

And lastly, high profile bans. These are the things that really fracture the community, which is why there is hesitance to actually punish people that are very known. The whole Benny, Henry ban thing gave way to the ASAB thing because of how much people in that group hated it. We get it, it's hard to agree with when your friends get banned. Why would you agree with your friend being punished? I get it. I really do. But  we can't just let things slide. And the punishment list is available to everyone, so once someone teams or ghosts or masses, it's still as big a deal as noted on those guidelines. "But Rand, I see other people mass all the time, why my friend?!" Well, a lot of people mass and don't get reported, which means it's not actually a mass. And a lot of people "mass" their friends, because all inner groups just fuck around with each other. That's why you'll see me propkill several people in a round and not get in trouble, because they're all my friends. It's just a different circumstance. So we know you won't be happy with certain bans, and we're sorry for that, but maybe you should take the opportunity to make sure your other friends don't do that kind of thing that gets people banned. Because really, ideally, we wouldn't ban anyone. Everyone would be able to just play and have fun and form this community without having any bans or slays or anything, but this is reality, and really our first line of defense is the friends of our playerbase, not the staff. So we'll keep trying, and trying, and trying, and hopefully resolve all these issues, but please do try to do some of your parts, too. As easy as it is to blame staff, it's a community issue first.