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The "Shut Up" Rule
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Please note that this is addressing the thread as a whole and Salty's latest comment.

A lot of things have been said here, some of them obviously good and some of them obviously bad. I recommend a slight change in vocabulary to maybe alter the perspective but still get across what others have been trying to say. I believe PH tries to hold people to a standard, a standard which would probably be considered very high on the internet. Am I stuck in some of my ways on how things should be handled? Yes, I have no doubt in mind, which is why I have tried surrounding myself with other staff members who will call me out if I am in the wrong or if they have an idea they would like looked into. That results from how I was raised but also how the server and staff team was when I got here. The staff team after the great departure was toxic and sometimes cut throat at certain times. I mainly just kept my head down and people seemed to either not notice me or be okay with it. The staff team have their moments but compared to where it was, I believe it to be much less toxic than what it used to be and I try to hold all the staff to a high standard so that we do not slowly sink back into those times which has then gotten reflected on the server.


I do not like the term PG because as others had pointed out with models and other things like certain names, profile pictures, the term nigga as well as various curse words and sayings (which would not be allowed in things that are "PG". I think PG started off as a joke that others took into reality. I believe we try to hold people to the level pf being respectful to others and if that makes a "safe space" than so be it. I do not remember the last time I have banned someone specifically for trolling. Most of the people I ban are cheaters, hackers, racists, attempted server crashers, and sexual harassers. Quite a few things we let slide unless they are out right offensive like player names and profile pictures, many of which we do not act upon unless someone brings up and has an issue with it. With trolls the maximum I get is a map gag and that is it because they either leave or have the situation defused completely or from toxic trolling to good fun trolling. This includes the "shut up" rule. About half the time unless someone says something about it, I let it slide unless they are being complete assholes about it. Which even then I just have to ask them to stop and that is the end of it 95% of the time without a gag or mute command even considered.

If you want a change in the mic spam or player disrespect rule, we can discuss that if you so wish. I do wish that if you wanted this to be taken seriously that you would have either remade the thread completely or done some heavy revisions because at least half if not more of this thread's problems could have been avoided. I also wish that the majority of this discussion was brought up and discussed by those who play PH at least occasionally and not by several who play very little if at all. The reasoning for that is because that you have people without the context of the situation and only the context they choose to see or are shown rather than the context experienced. Quite a bit of this arguing was from people coming in already seeing something that they already do not like but do not experience. TTT, PH, DR, and Murder are all very different creatures of this community and the experiences of them are drastically different. For example, I have never stepped foot on TTT because I am just not a fan of the game even when I played it with friends. I am not going to go in and tell them how to run the server or changes I want in their policy when someone I am friends with or like posts something against said normal policy (or at least I am not going to try to).

Possible change to mic spam rule: unless blatantly rude or being an asshole, staff could from now on ignore people telling others to shut up. It would not change much with the staff and players who have played PH for some time but it could help the newer staff from hearing someone saying "shut up" and thinking "shut up = bad". People obviously should not be immediately gagging for this if that has been happening without me noticing. I believe this is what happened to you Salty and where this thread came into fruition nearly a week after the even occurred.

I am sorry that this answer/comment is long winded. I try covering everything as much as I can because Travis and others like coming in and saying "but what if this 1 in 10,000 thing happens?". I was also trying to provide context of my entire thought process and I enjoy writing every now and then so it just happens. PH will continue holding players to a higher standard than TTT due to player base and how the servers are set up. TTT likes running how it is, from the outside, rather chaotic because chaos is part of how that game works. Without out, TTT would not exist as a gamemode.

Let me know on all of your thoughts on this possible slight rule altering and other guideline/server changes that you all may be interested in.
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Messages In This Thread
The "Shut Up" Rule - by Salty - 10-24-2020, 07:14 PM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by JesseTheUndeadCowboy - 10-24-2020, 07:19 PM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by §bKiwi The Fruit - 10-24-2020, 07:20 PM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by TheUltraFish - 10-24-2020, 07:25 PM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by Spiderling - 10-24-2020, 07:25 PM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by August - 10-24-2020, 07:29 PM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by TheUltraFish - 10-24-2020, 07:47 PM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by [Yellow] Travis1421 - 10-24-2020, 08:29 PM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by The Triangle - 10-25-2020, 01:10 AM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by Aki (♥ω♥) - 10-25-2020, 03:11 AM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by UnfortunatePossum - 10-25-2020, 10:33 AM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by Salty - 10-25-2020, 11:20 AM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by PH - 10-25-2020, 11:00 AM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by JesseTheUndeadCowboy - 10-25-2020, 11:34 AM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by Uriel'is - 10-25-2020, 11:40 AM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by UnfortunatePossum - 10-25-2020, 11:46 AM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by JesseTheUndeadCowboy - 10-25-2020, 11:58 AM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by [pink] Pixie Soldier - 10-25-2020, 11:59 AM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by Nekomancer - 10-25-2020, 12:23 PM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by JesseTheUndeadCowboy - 10-25-2020, 12:26 PM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by Cake - 10-25-2020, 12:27 PM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by Abdel - 10-25-2020, 12:28 PM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by Happy - 10-25-2020, 01:23 PM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by TheUltraFish - 10-25-2020, 01:37 PM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by Jordanian Sniper - 10-25-2020, 03:01 PM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by Alora - 10-25-2020, 03:16 PM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by Knee Coal Bowlass - 10-25-2020, 01:45 PM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by Ryuji Sakamoto - 10-25-2020, 04:14 PM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by MissPauling - 10-25-2020, 04:23 PM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by Noire - 10-25-2020, 05:40 PM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by [Yellow] Travis1421 - 10-25-2020, 06:00 PM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by Salty - 10-25-2020, 06:03 PM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by [pink] Pixie Soldier - 10-25-2020, 06:07 PM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by TheUltraFish - 10-25-2020, 07:36 PM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by [pink] Pixie Soldier - 10-25-2020, 07:51 PM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by Battons - 10-25-2020, 08:20 PM
RE: The "Shut Up" Rule - by Salty - 10-25-2020, 08:36 PM

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