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(11-27-2022, 08:46 PM)Ckg Wrote: 1. The issue with this is that no one but you brought up that situation, so yes you are providing context to a situation in the most general of terms.  However, you were the one who brought up that situation so that you could have a dick-measuring competition for who is a worse person.  This is what turns it into an attack.  The only purpose you bringing up that irrelevant situation and providing context.  Yes you are providing context to a situation, but that situation was brought up only to go after the characters of people.

2. I think this is what you are not getting. A staff application is a thread about you, not about others.  It is not to place to compare yourself to others, it is a place for you to show what qualities you have standing alone.  Also you know you are trying to make him/other staff look worse than you, that is the entire point of a comparison in this context, to make one side look better than the other. If you are not attempting to make him "look bad" outright, you are attempting to make him look bad/worse when in comparison with you.

If you were able to healthily take criticism you would be able to see why people have complaints about you and criticism, but you cannot and will not be able to until you learn to not make everything a comparison and instead focus on yourself and why you deserve the position, as opposed to why you think others do not.
Again, it's a situation I brought up as a direct comparison to what I was being accused of, which is extremely relevant as it was an example of the normal accepted behavior of staff. It's not a "dick measuring contest", it's comparing the accused behavior to the norms of the server.

Yes, it's about me and my actions, but those actions do not happen in a vacuum. It's not about making anyone look "worse", it's about the precedent set by the actions of others, both within the larger scale of the server's norms and between specific people. Examples are not given to make someone look bad, but to show that something I am accused of is within the accepted norms of the server and how other staff behave on a regular basis in comparison to what I'm accused of, or to show context that was left out of the accusation. You are entirely trying to twist this into something it isn't.

Once again, I observably have taken criticism when it's honest and constructive. But again, I am within my right to show how my actions compare to those of existing staff and the norms of the server set by them.

At no point in this thread or the last have I mentioned anyone else not deserving their position. Every single example I've given regarding other staff is to illustrate behavior that is common amongst staff, with no further comment other than how my actions fare in comparison. Any inference you've made beyond that is your own.

(11-27-2022, 08:52 PM)Ckg Wrote: Also IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT CONTEXT THE JOKE YOU MADE ABOUT BIRDDOG WAS IN. It is still wildly inappropriate and the context in which it was made is irrelevant. Trying to justify it by saying the part I highlighted in bold shows that you do not grasp that it was not ok at all.  You cannot and should not attempt to justify it in any way, just admit that you fucked up and do better.  But you cannot, because you are unable to accept the entirety of that fault onto yourself. No one forced you to make that joke, no one but you typed those letters on your keyboard and hit send.  The fact you aren't even able to admit 100% fault in the most clear of cases of wrong doing is more than enough to prove you are not ready for the role.
Yes, I literally already said that it does not change the fact that it was still over the line. But the context still shows that it was an isolated incident that occurred under specific circumstances, not one that happened at random toward someone with no history of similar jokes as had been claimed. It's not about justification, it's about motive. The point wasn't that I wasn't at fault, the point was that the joke was made under the mistaken assumption that the person it was made toward wouldn't take it seriously rather than to emotionally harm. I accept full fault for making that mistake and crossing that line, but I'm still going to point out the distinction and that it wasn't a normal occurrence.
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