[bunniey]

Takes no one saw coming: rand +1s tiefling

because its not coming -1 you suck


no just kidding +1, if killa can staff anyone with consistent time that doesn't openly say slurs can staff lets be real here|

oh i should say something about tiefling too here shouldnt i

kinda sucks but doesnt suck enough to not staff like foxka sucks but he's staff and all of my friends suck and they're staff so tiefling can suck and be staff too, plays game, knows some rules, is a gamer, all thats rly needed

[tiefling lesbian]

Takes no one saw coming: rand +1s tiefling

because its not coming -1 you suck


no just kidding +1, if killa can staff anyone with consistent time that doesn't openly say slurs can staff lets be real here|

oh i should say something about tiefling too here shouldnt i

kinda sucks but doesnt suck enough to not staff like foxka sucks but he's staff and all of my friends suck and they're staff so tiefling can suck and be staff too, plays game, knows some rules, is a gamer, all thats rly needed

erm actually i know all of the rules.

[Cimag]

+1

While I do aggree on the criticism part, because from my perspective is more like "ok but..." rather than a "point taken", everyone that has the courage to stand their ground deserves the chance to explain themselves, on the other side of the note, the comment that was taken 2 far, I do aggre that it was fucked up, (even if it was repeating what someone else already said, and I do think that an apologize was required back then), everyone has ever said or though worse things, some with ill intentions, others without it, and at the end of the day we cant judge someone based off on words solely, because actions speak louder than those, that being said, the whole discord thingy and most of the forums are a toxic space and a "Me VS them " sort of situation, so anyone is prone to say really bad things sooner or later, the whole point is that we should improve and strive to be better when we acknowledge our own flaws

now on the game side of things, she knows the rules, and its active, so yeah, I do see a possible trusted

[Hotshot]

+1

While I do aggree on the criticism part, because from my perspective is more like "ok but..." rather than a "point taken", everyone that has the courage to stand their ground deserves the chance to explain themselves,  on the other side of the note, the comment that was taken 2 far, I do aggre that it was fucked up, (even if it was repeating what someone else already said, and I do think that an apologize was required back then), everyone has ever said or though worse things, some with ill intentions, others without it, and at the end of the day we cant judge someone based off on words solely, because actions speak louder than those, that being said, the whole discord thingy and most of the forums are a toxic space and a "Me VS them " sort of situation, so anyone is prone to say really bad things sooner or later, the whole point is that we should improve and strive to be better when we acknowledge our own flaws

now on the game side of things, she knows the rules, and its active, so yeah, I do see a possible trusted

I don't see how you, or anyone here, sees hoping that my unborn child would die as a small scale problem. Directly to me, in fact. And only apologized for it when it came up here. In fact, I encourage everyone to see how I explicitly told her that, no, I did not like it and that I believed Hong was drunk and she was just hateful, and she replied with crying baby gifs. Immediately after I both stated that no, I didn't find it funny after suffering a miscarriage. Instead of backing down, she went a step further. 

https://discord.com/channels/26353637419...8531955712

I know I'm an abrasive troll, but I wouldn't cross that line upon wishing actual death on someone, especially someone's family. I fail to see how you think that it's even remotely a small deal, or even close to how staff or people wanting to be staff should interact.

Also, yes, I know, coming from me that's hilarious in an ironic way, but I've never said I wished anyone I didn't like on here would die or their family suffered.

[tiefling lesbian]

+1

While I do aggree on the criticism part, because from my perspective is more like "ok but..." rather than a "point taken", everyone that has the courage to stand their ground deserves the chance to explain themselves,  on the other side of the note, the comment that was taken 2 far, I do aggre that it was fucked up, (even if it was repeating what someone else already said, and I do think that an apologize was required back then), everyone has ever said or though worse things, some with ill intentions, others without it, and at the end of the day we cant judge someone based off on words solely, because actions speak louder than those, that being said, the whole discord thingy and most of the forums are a toxic space and a "Me VS them " sort of situation, so anyone is prone to say really bad things sooner or later, the whole point is that we should improve and strive to be better when we acknowledge our own flaws

now on the game side of things, she knows the rules, and its active, so yeah, I do see a possible trusted

I don't see how you, or anyone here, sees hoping that my unborn child would die as a small scale problem. Directly to me, in fact. And only apologized for it when it came up here. In fact, I encourage everyone to see how I explicitly told her that, no, I did not like it and that I believed Hong was drunk and she was just hateful, and she replied with crying baby gifs. Immediately after I both stated that no, I didn't find it funny after suffering a miscarriage. Instead of backing down, she went a step further. 

https://discord.com/channels/26353637419...8531955712

I know I'm an abrasive troll, but I wouldn't cross that line upon wishing actual death on someone, especially someone's family. I fail to see how you think that it's even remotely a small deal, or even close to how staff or people wanting to be staff should interact.

Also, yes, I know, coming from me that's hilarious in an ironic way, but I've never said I wished anyone I didn't like on here would die or their family suffered.

You joke about killing people pretty often, actually. Like I said, I apologize for what I said and I'll refrain from similar things in the future, but let's not pretend you haven't set a precedent for these kinds of jokes (which, along with all the other offensive things you say, you have never apologized for or seemed to care whether or not the people you made them towards found them funny). And despite you insisting that everyone else must take everything offensive you say as a joke, I feel the need to inform you that yes, what I said was intended as a joke.
https://imgur.com/a/luVFPrE

[Ryan722]

I'm going to leave my vote as it is, but just want to give a comment.

The interaction between you and Birddog is sticky, as while your comment did (and does) come across as pretty offensive, I see where you're coming from with the context of comments he's made in the past, and I have no doubt you intended it as a joke. That said, there's an expectation as staff not just to avoid saying things that will likely offend somebody, but more importantly to recognize when to take a step back and reevaluate what you're saying. I think Birddog made it reasonably clear that the comment bothered him, and even when Reina stepped in you still stood your ground on the joke you made.

I don't think this should disqualify your app. It was a one-off (albeit recent) occurrence, and I still personally think you could make a solid Trusted for the reasons I gave in my first response. In the future, (especially if this gets accepted) just reconsider before doubling down when called out in a situation like this.

[tiefling lesbian]

I'm going to leave my vote as it is, but just want to give a comment.

The interaction between you and Birddog is sticky, as while your comment did (and does) come across as pretty offensive, I see where you're coming from with the context of comments he's made in the past, and I have no doubt you intended it as a joke. That said, there's an expectation as staff not just to avoid saying things that will likely offend somebody, but more importantly to recognize when to take a step back and reevaluate what you're saying. I think Birddog made it reasonably clear that the comment bothered him, and even when Reina stepped in you still stood your ground on the joke you made.

I don't think this should disqualify your app. It was a one-off (albeit recent) occurrence, and I still personally think you could make a solid Trusted for the reasons I gave in my first response. In the future, (especially if this gets accepted) just reconsider before doubling down when called out in a situation like this.

It was difficult to read at the time because of his history of similar jokes and openly disparaging people for being offended by things (including personal insults toward me in the past and shortly before the incident in question), which I had taken to mean he wouldn't be seriously offended by things either. It's not a joke I would have made toward someone without that history. Regardless, I agree that staff should be held to a higher standard for behavior, and I should have made a better judgement call. I accept fault there and will be more conscientious moving forward.

[bunniey]

Hm. Didn't actually see all this before. Perhaps maybe wait another month and see if anything like this comes up?

It's one thing for someone to make impersonal jokes, it's another to make targeted jokes about someone personally that are very offensive, and then doubling down until the idea of an apology is brought up by that person, y'know?

I don't really mind it either way as I know some people have said the most wild things and it happens, just move on, but might see why one could think you should wait another period to make sure nothing else comes up as well.

[tiefling lesbian]

christmas bump

[jax]

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It was difficult to read at the time because of his history of similar jokes and openly disparaging people for being offended by things (including personal insults toward me in the past and shortly before the incident in question), which I had taken to mean he wouldn't be seriously offended by things either. It's not a joke I would have made toward someone without that history. Regardless, I agree that staff should be held to a higher standard for behavior, and I should have made a better judgement call. I accept fault there and will be more conscientious moving forward.

I don't know if I've ever seen birddog move into the territory of wishing death to someone's child, feel free to provide screenshots otherwise. I think the "his history of similar jokes and openly disparaging people for being offended by things (including personal insults toward me in the past and shortly before the incident in question), which I had taken to mean he wouldn't be seriously offended by things either." is a little disingenuous because there's obviously a clearer line with jokes like that. I'm similar to birddog in the way I conduct myself on discord, with the jokes I make. However, I would still be a little ticked off if I told the discord "me and my wife are going to try to have a child." and someone followed up with "I hope it dies.". Just because some people are not offended by most things, doesn't really mean you have a free ticket to say whatever you want.

Reina is usually not offended by the jokes I make, and the things I say to her. However, she was negatively affected by the JFK video I posted. I crossed the line and was punished appropriately, but it was pretty easy to recognize that I was 100% in the wrong. Just because she hadn't previously been offended by my comments, didn't give me free pass to cross that boundary. This does come across as your attempt to justify, at least in my opinion a pretty black and white "overstep". 

All that being said, discord is a different beast than TTT so my previous comments from your last app still stand. I won't bother repeating them. +1