(01-27-2020, 11:28 PM)near Wrote:that’s pretty valid on the blackball aspect. usually when someone gets a no they do a revote unless it’s like a damning reason. i just thought it would be the best method instead of multiple committees to ensure it won’t end up going inactive. Also considering not even half the staff team is active I feel like the system would be good in the sense that the voting wouldn’t be too big or too little either way. it would be even and fair and ultimately the final say going to an active co-owner (best case scenario)(01-27-2020, 11:05 PM)dong Wrote:(01-27-2020, 10:58 PM)Cake Wrote: I will agree with specific points of what is in this thread. I do not see it as someone being salty that they did not get staff and is throwing a temper tantrum (granted it can be taken that way and i know some will take it that way) This does address a legitimate problem within the TTT community that will effect anyone that attempts to apply for staff or for promotion.
Just to make this clear my response is not aimed at this specific instance with mrporkys app this is an over arching statement that I have been wanting to bring up to staff for about a month
It is not fair for someone to be denied because no one on the committee is active enough to reach the requirements set down by the higher staff or see the development of a community member during their time on server. You can say that mods and admins are active on forums and on discord but you do not normally get to see how people behave on server in vc or reports unless they are on server, granted you can look in relay but that can only do so much.
I know that admins and mods have lives outside of a video game and do not have the time or do not want to allocate time to the server or the development of the lower staff. Everyone has a life outside of a 10+ year old game but that is besides the point. If something means enough to you a person will find a way to make time for it.
The system for which the staff apps are handled as of this moment is broken and there needs to be an alternative when situations like this occur as the server appears to be heading in a direction where this would become common practice.
suggested solution: As we only have 2 or 3 active mods (including the new mod), change the committee be changed form the "trusted, tmod, mod" committees to a simple staff app committee or just do away with the staff app committees at least untill there are more active staff to where the committees could be split if it was something that people wanted to go back to
I am not saying committees are a bad thing I think with set people volunteering to do things like training and suggestion's it makes people feel more involved and like their voice matters in the development of the server.
(maybe more to come this is just what i have off the top of my head atm)
I honestly think committees are a bad idea. Ideally the entire staff team should have a say in who they're bringing in. Within fraternities they have a black ball system that I can't go too much into detail about, but it is a fair way for the entire brotherhood (or staff team in this case) to vote on who they let in. If there are so many -1 among the staff then deny the application, if they are within reason to even -1 the person. They should also take into account the communities input on that specific player.
On ph due to having a significantly smaller staff team they'll take input from the entire team that's active which is only like 5 of em, but the results are ultimately left to the admins or dink himself. A problem i see with the faternity mentality idea is that it becomes one and we see people mass -1 or +1 apps because specific people don't like or want the applicant as staff. (Potentially worsening our existing clique issue)
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