[Darkkran]

The real truth is if a staff member wants and or needs your help they will ask for it. The last thing you want is to kick or mute a player who the staff are deliberately ignoring to gather evidence. More goes on in the background then most people think.

Being a former staff member, I have to disagree. If a Donor got a gag/mute in before I did, I was fine with it. To gag someone they had to have said something or blown your eardrums out in order to earn that gag/mute. For me, personally, it's not hard to record the last 5+ minutes of stupidity with Shadowplay. Why would I continue letting the people who are on the server hear these apes rather than just gagging them and making a mental note of each time they were warned/punished?

You [ALL] as a staff member (Or ex-staff) is the exact reason we are in the position we are currently in and donators overstepping their boundaries. When you let them jump in front of you, they test the waters with the other staff or ASSUME that is how it normally is until they get in trouble. I would even go as far to say you are teaching them wrong and you are the problem with what staff is currently facing. Without negative intention you have further advanced the thought to them that they are staff, and how you conducted yourself was the way that all other staff did the same.

It's like having a mom and dad on two different playing fields. Mom says no candy before bed, but dad doesn't care so you ignore what your mother said so that you can do what you want and sometimes you get caught but other times you get away with it. But when you get caught, your parents argue and the blame gets shifted off of you and always gets debated until a breaking point pretty much leading to a downfall and divorce. Donators are not stupid, they push their limits until they get "called out" and then repeat the process. This isn't a hard concept to figure out that the staff that allow donators to do stuff for them end up just getting stepped on in the long run.

I'm not saying you are a bad person, but your concept of "help" is flawed and is the current issue. Staff needs to push the issue with a strict hammer and actually crack down on this without warnings. There have been so many warnings, people are just abusing the system.

Sember is right, I've been in a voice channel where multiple staff members were trying to get [Or FUTURE which they need to let them mess up more not just past shit] evidence including an admin, to then be overstepped by a donator because they are NOT FUCKING STAFF and have no clue what's going on and therefore ruins staffs chances to actually get the evidence they need to push a harsher punishment if a punishment can be given at all.

But then again, Dink will never see this so I'm just having fun debating again.