[MagykThorne]

Honestly this is why we have damage logs to see who damaged who and leave it like that. There should be no reason why you needed to kick someone over something small that can easily be resolved with a copy of the damage line if there was a RDM or take a picture of the logs and post it in the discord to a TTT Mod or Trusted thats why there is a on-call staff for the server.
I think you could of handle the situation alot better then just kicking them that was a bad call regardless of what happened.

there is no reason to kick them damage logs or not its a minor offence especially if nopleez and gang are on because they jokingly do it anyways, i don't think oncall staff is necessary for someone shooting someone who thought they had a knife i am guilty of this aswell.

but i did look at the logs thats how i got your steam id ad as it does show shid shooting you and that you did buy a stabbing license i did not watch the death scene and im unsure if there watch able after the map but im just confirming the logs did say but still no reason to kick.

Okay so I have a big problem with this. You are saying that "nopleez and gang" are on because they RDM jokingly...? You are okay with RDM as long as it's, "joking"? I didn't consent to get RDMd, I just was. I didn't know how to see the logs until Magyk told me so, so I didn't know where to go to gather evidence, and I'm not recording 24/7, and to be honest, I don't know anyone who does record their gameplay, nobody is there to be the RDM police, we're here to have fun after a day's work/school.

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Now, as far as handling the situation, I strongly disagree with the notion that someone who is RDMing shouldn't be kicked if there is no other means of handling the situation at the time. I'm actually quite upset with the fact that RDM isn't handled with a more iron fist approach, but then again it's not very common on Dinkleberg's, nor is it intentional most of the time. The reason I feel it's not the wrong call is simply because it's either one kick and done, it's likely not going to recurr because the precedent has been set, an example has been made, of the consequences of violating this particular rule.

Also, I do understand by saying the RDM rule should be enforced harder, that it would mean people like me, and even me, would be punished harsher.

Someone who RDMs once should not be kicked. Whether that be by staff or donors. The correct choices to make in these situations are: on-call ping in Discord, report/ban request if it gets to that point, or ignore it and move on. One RDM isn't ban worthy, so that option isn't really the best and it mostly just comes down to calling staff or ignoring it. The reason it is the wrong call is that it isn't just one kick and done. More than likely it ends one of two ways: Someone gets kicked by a donor for an nondescript reason they don't understand and then never come back to Dinkleberg's, which is an issue because we want/need players, or they simply come back angrier and RDM much worse. (or the third option, which is reports like this are made and can potentially lead to loss of donor if continued after warnings)

That all being said, I'm not in charge of what result comes of this. But in the future, when situations like this arise, if you aren't sure what the proper course of action is, just ask staff (through Discord for the fastest response)

I've noted all you've said, I don't really use discord as I don't play anything other than garry's mod currently, I'm not a huge gamer to be honest. I'll take a back seat if a situation like this arises again, but if you have a moment, please see what millydilly said above which seems to condone RDM if it's in the name of "fun" which... really invalidates the perspective he is trying to throw on me with this report.

Also please note; my intention is not to take a seat as if I'm staff, or to drive people away, just trying to do the right thing, but I understand this does fall into a grey area and I'll make sure it doesn't happen again.

We all make mistakes! But very appreciated that you were just trying to do something about it!