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I'll at the least +1 a reduction to two weeks, based on the evidence of the first teaming ban which I don't feel met the qualifications of severe teaming (at least on Shaye's side). I'm surprised it wasn't appealed TBH, but I cannot in good conscience support more than 2 weeks for teaming due to the circumstances behind this ban.

That being said, I feel that disruption to the game did occur. Although Kessler has indicated he has no concerns from an RDM persepctive, their team revived a member of the opposite team, while losing a member of their own team. This certainly could be a disruption to the game.

Here are the rules for each type of teaming:
(06-16-2021, 09:46 PM)Battons Wrote: Moderate Teaming

• Moderate teaming involves situations where the teaming results in minor game disruptions. In these instances, at least one party is aware of the teaming and can reasonably expect that it will result in disruption to ordinary gameplay. 

Severe Teaming

Severe teaming involves situations where the teaming results in major game disruptions. In these instances, both parties are actively working together to achieve the other’s objectives and are fully aware that their activities will defeat the objectives of the game.

I believe Shaye's role falls under MODERATE Teaming, not SEVERE Teaming, due to two reasons:

1. While both Shaye and someone named "Veil" was banned for teaming, I am not convined on this evidence alone that Veil was aware of the teaming aspect. Unless you are actively paying attention, you may not remember who killed you/who the KOS'd T's were, etc. It is very possible that Veil believed it was an inno who had acquired a defib, reviving a fellow inno to help the inno's own teams. Given that Shaye then killed a traitor, that could have further buried into Veil's mind that they were revived by an INNO Shaye.
I note that Severe Teaming requires both parties to be privy of the Teaming in play, with the exceptions listed underneath in the actual rule (Click the arrow in the quote to go to the full forum post). For this reason, I don't feel the criteria for Severe Teaming is met.

2. Severe Teaming requires the parties to be actively working to achieve the other's objectives/to defeat the objectives of the game. I feel this was trolling/fooling around, not an intentional/concerted effort to ruin one team's chances or the other.

I do think this falls under Moderate teaming - Shaye knew Veil was an inno, and knowingly revived an inno with the intention to troll the game (and killed a T buddy to the same effect). I don't know if this had a minor scoring impact or not, or whether it sabatoged the T's win. If there was absolutely no impact on uninvolved players/no positive impact on the involved player's score, then this isn't teaming at all - just trolling.

At this stage, I am inclined to believe this is Moderate Teaming. Assuming the first Teaming stands as the "First offsense," then the Second Offense's ban length is 24 hours.
Since this ban request will likely take at least 24 hours, I am thus asking for a reduction to time served, with this standing as the second Teaming ban. Further teaming of any kind will count as a subsequent offense, resulting in a permanent ban for Severe, and 1-week ban for Moderate.

Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.

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hello :) - by shaye is kawaii - 09-06-2021, 09:21 PM
RE: hello :) - by GAMER - 09-06-2021, 09:49 PM
RE: hello :) - by Cryptic Salsa - 09-06-2021, 09:50 PM
RE: hello :) - by KaptainLes - 09-06-2021, 09:54 PM
RE: hello :) - by shaye is kawaii - 09-06-2021, 09:55 PM
RE: hello :) - by Name redacted by admin - 09-06-2021, 09:57 PM
RE: hello :) - by MiniMe2001 - 09-06-2021, 09:59 PM
RE: hello :) - by HONG - 09-06-2021, 10:07 PM
RE: hello :) - by Damien - 09-06-2021, 10:00 PM
RE: hello :) - by Kessler - 09-06-2021, 10:37 PM
RE: hello :) - by Damien - 09-06-2021, 10:45 PM
RE: hello :) - by Caribou - 09-06-2021, 10:38 PM
RE: hello :) - by dan - 09-06-2021, 10:43 PM
RE: hello :) - by Linfalas - 09-06-2021, 10:46 PM
RE: hello :) - by YourMateMurph - 09-06-2021, 10:46 PM
RE: hello :) - by matt_st3 (Strongrule) - 09-06-2021, 11:00 PM
RE: hello :) - by shaye is kawaii - 09-06-2021, 11:09 PM
RE: hello :) - by matt_st3 (Strongrule) - 09-06-2021, 11:24 PM
RE: hello :) - by shaye is kawaii - 09-06-2021, 11:57 PM
RE: hello :) - by Jammin - 09-07-2021, 12:06 AM
RE: hello :) - by derp - 09-07-2021, 12:24 AM
RE: hello :) - by JesseTheUndeadCowboy - 09-07-2021, 05:50 AM
RE: hello :) - by ratty - 09-07-2021, 08:58 PM
RE: hello :) - by bryanbrr - 09-07-2021, 09:13 PM

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