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what the fuck
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(05-11-2022, 12:22 AM)BIIG_SAD Wrote: to address some of your points,
1a.
I am talking as a regular of TTT. I do not staff TTT currently.
1b.
I summarized it as that, because I am pretty sure that is what Bambi meant. I downplayed it all, because you cannot convey a full scenario including voice tone over text without long-winding.  That being said, Hanlon's razor dictates that whether or not it was intended, incompetence/non-intention can be the same as malice.


 But because I wasn't clear, I will elaborate. 

I didn't get just that, it was more in the vein of outright hostility than it was trolling. The tone and delivery were outright hostile, and other things were said as well that I cannot remember right now verbatim. I just remember that it was out of the gate hostility, and not the usual "haha, prophunt staff strict" I get from TTT. with the tone and everything else said, it felt more in line with a "go off yourself" kind of vibe, and not some light trolling.

The joke will always stay a joke. If anyone uses it for harassment that's an entirely different Issue. I started this joke when you joined the call and shaye said it like I did, Jokingly. I understood that shaye was being sarcastic like I was, but there's no way tone can bring "you play on a different server" to "kill yourself"

Consider. you visit a different server you normally play on, and you immediately start getting hate from one or two people, who make it their job to remind you of why you are not the same as everyone else, even though you find that you are. You become discriminated because you play something else other than that game. When you try to make it stop, it gets worse, and the tone shifts from light to serious, and the hate continues. Then, nobody defends you because its seen as a joke to others, and you decide not to raise the issue as the people eventually leave.

I don't think you would like it, nor is it something the server should encourage. stuff like this leads to bullying and hate. I will agree that I did try and resolve it in a light tone and discuss it simply, because that seems to work sometimes to get people to forget a thing.

It's seriously not that deep. It's a harmless joke done on both sides and you know it. If you get offended by it that's on you for deciding to be offended by it.

Also, I am not using this as a main justification, but as an example of why I am voting -1 and my reasoning to why.

2.everyone plays TTT, and everyone plays PH and Murder (deathrun not as much, but yeah). PH players are now trying murder, and lots of PH players play TTT, for example. Age-gating the communities is outright hostile and only ends poorly. I have seen literal children playing TTT in the TTT server, so you cannot categorically call it an "adult" community.

TTT is an adult community. More adult topics are allowed on it than PH and a lot of things that would get you gagged on PH can be said on TTT. This is probably why the whole "Strict PH Staff" joke came from since... yeah the PH server is more strict than TTT in most categories.

3. I never complained that "all TTT players are toxic." I am simply stating why this kind of behavior, even if it could be "funny" really isn't funny for the person receiving it. Joking "hurr hurr, prophunt staff, go staff prophunt", is that. a joke. Saying in a hostile tone something like "eww, its fucking biig_sad. Fucking prophunt staff :( , keep yourself safe" is not (I do not remember exactly what was said, but this is an approximation of it). So no. I am not categorizing TTT players. I am describing one person's behavior. Not making a generalization.

Shaye did NOT say anything close to this. Granted, I left for a bit right after you joined to go get food but I know for a fact shaye did not tell you to commit suicide. Shaye could've and would've been perma banned then and there since you could've reported to a discord staff member.

if you want to argue semantics about this, do it somewhere else. I am going to only talk further about the unban appeal.
Guess my responses and you get free bobux.


Messages In This Thread
what the fuck - by bambi - 05-10-2022, 08:02 PM
RE: what the fuck - by Damien - 05-10-2022, 08:05 PM
RE: what the fuck - by JesseTheUndeadCowboy - 05-10-2022, 08:08 PM
RE: what the fuck - by тоска™ - 05-10-2022, 08:09 PM
RE: what the fuck - by Salty - 05-10-2022, 08:09 PM
RE: what the fuck - by I EAT HAMSTERS - 05-10-2022, 08:20 PM
RE: what the fuck - by Noire - 05-10-2022, 08:22 PM
RE: what the fuck - by (j)ax - 05-10-2022, 08:26 PM
RE: what the fuck - by RussEfarmer - 05-10-2022, 08:29 PM
RE: what the fuck - by dong - 05-10-2022, 08:33 PM
RE: what the fuck - by matt_st3 (Strongrule) - 05-10-2022, 08:52 PM
RE: what the fuck - by bambi - 05-10-2022, 08:56 PM
RE: what the fuck - by real (4) - 05-10-2022, 09:41 PM
RE: what the fuck - by Jammin - 05-10-2022, 10:15 PM
RE: what the fuck - by IdiotBaby - 05-10-2022, 10:31 PM
RE: what the fuck - by BIIG_SAD - 05-10-2022, 11:02 PM
RE: what the fuck - by (j)ax - 05-10-2022, 11:25 PM
RE: what the fuck - by BIIG_SAD - 05-11-2022, 12:22 AM
RE: what the fuck - by Damien - 05-11-2022, 01:56 AM
RE: what the fuck - by bambi - 05-10-2022, 11:35 PM
RE: what the fuck - by Mother Nuru. - 05-10-2022, 11:46 PM
RE: what the fuck - by Damien - 05-11-2022, 12:01 AM
RE: what the fuck - by HONG - 05-11-2022, 12:05 AM
RE: what the fuck - by Battons - 05-11-2022, 12:11 AM
RE: what the fuck - by Salty - 05-11-2022, 04:54 AM
RE: what the fuck - by TheUltraFish - 05-11-2022, 06:22 AM
RE: what the fuck - by bambi - 05-11-2022, 09:26 AM
RE: what the fuck - by reinaberg - 05-11-2022, 06:19 PM
RE: what the fuck - by troll facer - 05-11-2022, 06:23 PM
RE: what the fuck - by Jammin - 05-11-2022, 09:19 PM

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