[Salty]

Good God this thread devolved a bit since I last read it. 


So, what had happened is that there was something else that was considered on top of the "dick rider" or whatever comment was made. That's what resulted in the strike being administered. I had figured that this was strike ban rather than an outright because there wasn't anyone from the discord team who came in and was like "okay shaye, I have to ban you now." 


I have looked at the "inciting drama towards Foxka" that is being talked about: Here's  of the screenshots of the conversation in case you did not see it. This happened on May 5th, 2022.


For context, Shaye was banned on TTT on my birthday, as you all probably are aware of; she was inebriated when sending these messages, so naturally the emotions are going to be very expressive... in a bad way. I'm not going to attempt saying that alcohol is a valid excuse for this, rather that it explains this sort of tirade where she was thinking less logically and more emotionally due to frustration. I've been there myself (without the alcohol though; see here). 

I'm not going to go as far as to what Jax said to BIG Sad, but I do have to say that there is a little bit of merit behind what was said; I am not going to say that staff need to be robots, but you shouldn't let any little thing said towards you get under your skin; this kind of argument could have been avoided very easily had Foxka chosen to ignore it; I would say that both sides are guilty in that argument; Shaye shouldn't have incited it, but Foxka should not have responded. It's very clear these two players DO NOT like each other. 

If you look up anything Shaye has said that refers to Foxka in the discord, there is no history of constantly harassment or targeting, at least from what I have read; just this singular argument. Although Shaye took a minute to move on, she did not bring it back up after that conversation had happened. Unless I'm remembering incorrectly, we would've just put the individuals who argued on the watchlist rather than give a warning.

Of course, I staffed Discord in 2020; things have probably changed since that time since we actually have a discord admin now.


Even with factoring in Shaye's warns/ban history, I still feel that this kind of thing was not a warranted warning that preceded a strike, and here's why: I just simply do not agree with the verdict on the warning; this wasn't inciting drama to me, this was more of a frustrated player taking it out on the person she felt was responsible. Is that justifiable? To an extent, yes; however, it is still a rule violation. According to the discord rules, it actually doesn't say if inciting an argument is a major or minor offense (unless I missed it). 

Here are the messages that got Shaye the week ban.

"icey is a dick rider

cum swallowing

staff riding

piece of garb

-1 -1 -1"

Personally, I feel that this argument that  because it mentions "cum" it's inappropriate is... well, I just find it asinine to be completely honest. I don't want to throw accusations out there, but this strike seemed a bit... personal. Something that is infuriating about the Auttaja bot is that sometimes it isn't clear as to why you get banned, or who banned you. According to Shaye, when shaye made this request, she had no idea why she was even banned because Auttaja did not inform her of a reason; because of this, Noire told her why she was banned but not who, as you all want to keep the who private so they don't get flamed/targeted/etc. I get it; what is unacceptable is the bot glitching and not sending the reason to the banned individual. Not much you all can do about that, unfortunately.

Again, this is my personal opinion so if you disagree with my take, that's perfectly fine. I'm not saying you all are incompetent by any means, I am just simply showing why I disagree.

My final vote is that Shaye gets a reduction to this ban. What she was banned for is not worthy of a week by any means. I would say 3 days is enough time.

I hope to see you back in the Dink's Discord soon.