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 I get that people can grow and change, but looking at a deeper level into Laced's actions on the forums, there is shitposting, arguments, and disrespectful comments (including telling people to "stop being stupid lmfao" on this very thread). How can anyone take this decision seriously?

Seeing someone say "I'll warn you for shitposting" but has a record past of that is almost hypocritical and hard to take serious, and I think that major point was forgotten in all of this.

I just want to critique this a little. I don't think, in my personal opinion, the statement, "stop being stupid lmfao," is a disrespectful comment or however you take it. I get it comes off a bit snarky, but it also is just implying people to not state things that are not part of the discussion. Yes, it may be hypocritical. From what I have seen on the forums, "most" of laced's comments were shitpost for non-serious threads or semi-serious. I hope that we can discuss it if you would like!  :)

Now for first part of the thread: What I had agreed with and disagreed with have been stated. Yes, the announcement for laced kinda came out of nowhere. While it is a major shock and may be a big step down or right step for the forums, wherever your decision lies, I trust that the admins from each respective server gave their fair points and criticism for the web mod position. I would assume it was a difficult decision considering of his past, his actions currently, and what he does for the community. But since we do have admins that, as a community, we trust for each server, I think that they made a respectful decision to allow him to be web mod on the condition of watching his actions and putting their trust into Gabe for managing Laced. Yes, there will be skepticism since they are good friends. I do trust Gabe to know and act on what is right for the forums since he has been a web admin for a while.

For Tiefling's Comment: My only comment is that it is weird that forum promotions happen entirely behind closed doors when every other promotion category is handled publicly.
I agree that it is a little weird, but I also want to state that if Laced were to put a web mod app onto the forums, I'm pretty sure everyone would know how it would end. I agree that the forums should be a place for discussion, while some comments may be snarky and outright not helpful, they should be allowed to voice their opinion. While others may not agree with deleting said comments and others wanting to delete rude comments, that's up for debate.

For the other half of the thread: I do understand Foxka's position in where he resides. While I, in my current position, do not know the history of everyone, only what is shown from threads and other comments, I think that being able voice that opinion of another person is a good point. I think that, while blocking IS a feature that has been on almost everything, I don't think that it helps to block others just for the dislike of them. Yes, you may not like or agree with the person, but consider other's view points instead of shutting them down just because it's a certain individual. Also, people can change and evolve over time. I see one opposition with their LACK of trust for laced as an individual, whether that be their history together or past disputes. I also see the other opposition of people trusting and supporting laced for his current actions, despite his controversial history. While I do support Laced for staff in TTT and forums, I also think that there is some changes needed for him. As I pointed out with the blocking issue, I would want to see that issue improved or resolved to consider others. It can be rough to see others not agree with you and I would like to see you be a little more open for that. I think that you can be a good web mod, just make sure to be more open for other's viewpoints.

Also, I do agree that Batton's comment was not a very good critique or helped the engagement of disputes. While I don't necessarily know Battons, (He seems like a great guy) I think that showing your disapproval with a little malice isn't a way to go. I understand the frustration made in the comment was to show your disapproval for the decision and it's good to show that and I don't think it should've been censored, but just make sure to add a critique instead of derailing it with a comment of a little malice.

I hope that more discussions can be made for this thread, but keep it on topic as it's starting to derail a little. Consider others viewpoints and don't go on a witch hunt on each other just to get rid of them from the community forever. Thank You. Love you All.