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-1. I'm gonna have to agree with Toyshop here, if the community's consensus was that Shaye has had too many chances, the same should be applied here.
Also lying on your unban request about ban evasion isn't a great look.
I definitely do think the proof of scripting should be posted here as well.
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Btw before looking a number of bans an deciding when someone had to many chances, look at what the bans are for. Most of Grasse's are from exploiting with the graple hook (getting where he didn't belong or gaining a ton of speed) OR slurring. Also no idea why GBans decided to put me as the person that unbanned him for most of them when I unbanned him from his last perma when he appealed that. (Which was for consistent slurring)
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As Tiefling said, when it comes to being allowed back into the community, the expectation is that the behaviour that got you banned in the first place changes(which once again, this is the same case as Shaye).
Grasse has been warned several times recently for slurring, and has also ban evaded again, which I believe he was perma'd for in the past as well.
I don't think he should be given any more chances just because of how well liked he is within the community.
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ok so we've determined saying slurs is bad and ban evading is bad, cheating is a pretty serious accusation and we should see proof of that too since it's included in the ban reason
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(10-15-2023, 07:50 PM)tiefling lesbian Wrote: (10-15-2023, 07:37 PM)lacer Wrote: ok so we've determined saying slurs is bad and ban evading is bad, cheating is a pretty serious accusation and we should see proof of that too since it's included in the ban reason
the evidence available isn't going to convince you and at this point it doesn't really matter, multiple instances of ban evasion and 40+ warn points is enough reason for the appeal to be denied on its own, i can change the ban reason if it will make you happy
if the evidence available won't convince people then it isn't enough evidence to include cheating in the ban reason, not saying the ban wasn't warranted i'm just saying if you're going to include something as a reason you're banning someone then you should have conclusive evidence for it