[Hotshot]

I'd rather you just be honest without this "I'm a changed person" crap.

what an odd thing to say

anyways, also, pedophilia jokes are usually just in good fun and I don't often see the need to ban people permanently for them. They're the kind of jokes that get told ad nauseum in most people's lives. I don't think personally they hold much weight in the category of "bad person or not".

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THIS IS MY OWN OPINION AND DOES NOT REFELCT ANY OPINIONS OF THE ADMIN TEAM.

Birddog, please just stop digging yourself a hole by commenting things like this on appeals for this sort of behavior while your currently sitting on a 3 day temp ban for over sexual conversation on the server. What you believe is acceptable vs what is accepted by the community differs.

yeah me going "fap fap fap" over the mic is definitely the same thing lol while people were making whacking off jokes. very much in the same vein. What am I digging a hole to? We're not friends and I don't need to impress you

[Mocha]

+1 for unban, even if you did come back on an alt and got a ban for evading.

Not sure if that ban was instant, or took some time since I don't know how that works exactly.

If you came back on that alt attempting to play and didn't get banned/warned for anything besides the evade, shows to me a change in character. If it was an instant ban for coming back on an alt, and you didn't get any playtime then this point is moot.

Either way 2 years is a long time, I know I'm a different person than I was two years ago. Thanks for being honest about your past, takes an honest look inside yourself to realize you need to change.

At the time it was 17ish months after the ban. Still wasn't right to do but I get what you mean.

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Would like you to also address the alt evade back in September. Since thats the most recent event.

It was me, no way or reason to beat around it, it was stupid and I am sorry.

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I just want to remind you that the ban wasn't just for warn points or slurs best not to lie in a ban appeal.  (You literally only have 1 slur warn back when they were only 4 points, you had 3 Pedophilia Joke warns.) 

Warns
2/21/2023 - Pedophilia Jokes
2/6/2023 - Slur warn
2/1/2023 - Pedophilia Jokes
11/22/2022 - Pedophilia Jokes

You joined on an alt of 9/3/2024 which we banned on 9/4/2024 During that time you were only on the server for about 15 minutes until you were banned.

Additionally here is a full list of related appeals.
https://www.dinklebergsgmod.com/site/sho...?tid=17911  - Appeal due to awran threshold for the second warn.
https://www.dinklebergsgmod.com/site/sho...?tid=17994 - First appeal of the perma
https://www.dinklebergsgmod.com/site/sho...?tid=18299 - Second appeal for the perma
https://www.dinklebergsgmod.com/site/sho...?tid=18729 - Third appeal for the perma
https://www.dinklebergsgmod.com/site/sho...?tid=19710 - Forth appeal for the perma

My bad, I didn't mean for it to sound like I was downplaying it, thank you for correcting it, it wasn't intentional.

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I'd rather you just be honest without this "I'm a changed person" crap.

It is honest, I said a lot of fucked up shit to people, even in a joking manor it was cringe and unacceptable and I'm sorry for it and am different from my 2 year younger self.

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I just want to remind you that the ban wasn't just for warn points or slurs best not to lie in a ban appeal.  (You literally only have 1 slur warn back when they were only 4 points, you had 3 Pedophilia Joke warns.) 

Warns
2/21/2023 - Pedophilia Jokes
2/6/2023 - Slur warn
2/1/2023 - Pedophilia Jokes
11/22/2022 - Pedophilia Jokes

You joined on an alt of 9/3/2024 which we banned on 9/4/2024 During that time you were only on the server for about 15 minutes until you were banned.

Additionally here is a full list of related appeals.
https://www.dinklebergsgmod.com/site/sho...?tid=17911  - Appeal due to awran threshold for the second warn.
https://www.dinklebergsgmod.com/site/sho...?tid=17994 - First appeal of the perma
https://www.dinklebergsgmod.com/site/sho...?tid=18299 - Second appeal for the perma
https://www.dinklebergsgmod.com/site/sho...?tid=18729 - Third appeal for the perma
https://www.dinklebergsgmod.com/site/sho...?tid=19710 - Forth appeal for the perma

2nd Post because I'm stupid with how forums work. Me getting banned for points was in refferal to going over the point cap (of 21 at time I think?) and getting banned as a result, not to lie, sorry.

[Ryan]

I'd rather you just be honest without this "I'm a changed person" crap.

what an odd thing to say

anyways, also, pedophilia jokes are usually just in good fun and I don't often see the need to ban people permanently for them. They're the kind of jokes that get told ad nauseum in most people's lives. I don't think personally they hold much weight in the category of "bad person or not".

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

THIS IS MY OWN OPINION AND DOES NOT REFELCT ANY OPINIONS OF THE ADMIN TEAM.

Birddog, please just stop digging yourself a hole by commenting things like this on appeals for this sort of behavior while your currently sitting on a 3 day temp ban for over sexual conversation on the server. What you believe is acceptable vs what is accepted by the community differs.

yeah me going "fap fap fap" over the mic is definitely the same thing lol while people were making whacking off jokes. very much in the same vein. What am I digging a hole to? We're not friends and I don't need to impress you

Ok this appeal isn’t about this. The point I believe chibill was trying to get across is that regardless of your opinions on the rule, it was still a rule all 3 times he received a warn. This appeal should be about whether or not Mocha should be allowed to return and not whatever happened on the server a few days ago.

[chibill]

yeah me going "fap fap fap" over the mic is definitely the same thing lol while people were making whacking off jokes. very much in the same vein. What am I digging a hole to? We're not friends and I don't need to impress you

Additionally his "Jokes" include directly calling someone a pedophile because they RDMed him, just calling people pedophiles in general , saying someone touched kids because they killed him. 

Just so everyone is aware.

[Hotshot]

yeah me going "fap fap fap" over the mic is definitely the same thing lol while people were making whacking off jokes. very much in the same vein. What am I digging a hole to? We're not friends and I don't need to impress you

Additionally his "Jokes" include directly calling someone a pedophile because they RDMed him, just calling people pedophiles in general , saying someone touched kids because they killed him. 

Just so everyone is aware.

honestly pretty funny and not really ban worthy imo, maybe a gag but that's pretty funny.

anyways back to the topic at hand and not you seething over me making a joke you didn't like/this guy making jokes you don't like

Mocha sounds genuine. If he fucks up again it's literally an admin going !ban Mocha x amount of time. I think he deserves a chance to play here again, good TTT servers are hard to come by and there's not really a reason to keep him out if he's being genuine. Making mountains out of mole hills for jokes you don't like isn't really the gotcha that some people think it is. Dinks has had WAY more drama filled people come back (or even be admins lol) so I think some kid coming back two years later is perfectly reasonable.

[Damien1579]

honestly pretty funny and not really ban worthy imo, maybe a gag but that's pretty funny.

anyways back to the topic at hand and not you seething over me making a joke you didn't like/this guy making jokes you don't like

Making mountains out of mole hills for jokes you don't like isn't really the gotcha that some people think it is. Dinks has had WAY more drama filled people come back (or even be admins lol) so I think some kid coming back two years later is perfectly reasonable.

It's not just "Jokes" the admins didn't like, it's directly against the rules of the server. What's the "joke" in calling someone a pedophile for killing you if not entirely shock value. It's meant to be shocking because it's wrong, and because it's wrong it's against the rules. Your humor and what you find funny does not dictate the rules.

It's also kind of silly to keep saying "We've unbanned worse". Like yeah no shit we've unbanned worse, it doesn't excuse the actions of the person you are talking about though and if it's half of your argument for an unban it's likely not to be a strong argument.


I like mocha, and I want mocha unbanned and able to play so I'll +1 an unban or a reduction, but I'm not gonna sit here and act like he did nothing wrong in my eyes, mocha said some edgy and fucked up things that got them (rightfully) banned, and genuinely apologizing is a good start to the unban process. If anything, an unban with a warn point probation or even a permanent warn point on the record that they can appeal at a later date would be a fair way to unban them but keep them on a short leash.

[Hotshot]

honestly pretty funny and not really ban worthy imo, maybe a gag but that's pretty funny.

anyways back to the topic at hand and not you seething over me making a joke you didn't like/this guy making jokes you don't like

Making mountains out of mole hills for jokes you don't like isn't really the gotcha that some people think it is. Dinks has had WAY more drama filled people come back (or even be admins lol) so I think some kid coming back two years later is perfectly reasonable.

It's not just "Jokes" the admins didn't like, it's directly against the rules of the server. What's the "joke" in calling someone a pedophile for killing you if not entirely shock value. It's meant to be shocking because it's wrong, and because it's wrong it's against the rules. Your humor and what you find funny does not dictate the rules.

It's also kind of silly to keep saying "We've unbanned worse". Like yeah no shit we've unbanned worse, it doesn't excuse the actions of the person you are talking about though and if it's half of your argument for an unban it's likely not to be a strong argument.


I like mocha, and I want mocha unbanned and able to play so I'll +1 an unban or a reduction, but I'm not gonna sit here and act like he did nothing wrong in my eyes, mocha said some edgy and fucked up things that got them (rightfully) banned, and genuinely apologizing is a good start to the unban process. If anything, an unban with a warn point probation or even a permanent warn point on the record that they can appeal at a later date would be a fair way to unban them but keep them on a short leash.

Not that I'm refuting your end point there, but has anyone else been put on probation after being unbanned, or had a permanent warn point? I've seen people unbanned for worse and didn't see anything like probation or a permanent warn point on their record or having to deal with. Making an epstein island joke or whatever he directly said doesn't seem like it needs a permanent warn point.

[Ryan]

honestly pretty funny and not really ban worthy imo, maybe a gag but that's pretty funny.

anyways back to the topic at hand and not you seething over me making a joke you didn't like/this guy making jokes you don't like

Making mountains out of mole hills for jokes you don't like isn't really the gotcha that some people think it is. Dinks has had WAY more drama filled people come back (or even be admins lol) so I think some kid coming back two years later is perfectly reasonable.

It's not just "Jokes" the admins didn't like, it's directly against the rules of the server. What's the "joke" in calling someone a pedophile for killing you if not entirely shock value. It's meant to be shocking because it's wrong, and because it's wrong it's against the rules. Your humor and what you find funny does not dictate the rules.

It's also kind of silly to keep saying "We've unbanned worse". Like yeah no shit we've unbanned worse, it doesn't excuse the actions of the person you are talking about though and if it's half of your argument for an unban it's likely not to be a strong argument.


I like mocha, and I want mocha unbanned and able to play so I'll +1 an unban or a reduction, but I'm not gonna sit here and act like he did nothing wrong in my eyes, mocha said some edgy and fucked up things that got them (rightfully) banned, and genuinely apologizing is a good start to the unban process. If anything, an unban with a warn point probation or even a permanent warn point on the record that they can appeal at a later date would be a fair way to unban them but keep them on a short leash.

Not that I'm refuting your end point there, but has anyone else been put on probation after being unbanned, or had a permanent warn point? I've seen people unbanned for worse and didn't see anything like probation or a permanent warn point on their record or having to deal with. Making an epstein island joke or whatever he directly said doesn't seem like it needs a permanent warn point.

Many of the recent successful appeals for permanent bans have had probationary points put on as a sort of “middle ground”. The only exceptions are things like Mass RDM typically don’t have a warn-point probation, since the original offence has nothing to do with warn points.

[Mocha]

honestly pretty funny and not really ban worthy imo, maybe a gag but that's pretty funny.

anyways back to the topic at hand and not you seething over me making a joke you didn't like/this guy making jokes you don't like

Making mountains out of mole hills for jokes you don't like isn't really the gotcha that some people think it is. Dinks has had WAY more drama filled people come back (or even be admins lol) so I think some kid coming back two years later is perfectly reasonable.

It's not just "Jokes" the admins didn't like, it's directly against the rules of the server. What's the "joke" in calling someone a pedophile for killing you if not entirely shock value. It's meant to be shocking because it's wrong, and because it's wrong it's against the rules. Your humor and what you find funny does not dictate the rules.

It's also kind of silly to keep saying "We've unbanned worse". Like yeah no shit we've unbanned worse, it doesn't excuse the actions of the person you are talking about though and if it's half of your argument for an unban it's likely not to be a strong argument.


I like mocha, and I want mocha unbanned and able to play so I'll +1 an unban or a reduction, but I'm not gonna sit here and act like he did nothing wrong in my eyes, mocha said some edgy and fucked up things that got them (rightfully) banned, and genuinely apologizing is a good start to the unban process. If anything, an unban with a warn point probation or even a permanent warn point on the record that they can appeal at a later date would be a fair way to unban them but keep them on a short leash.

Thank you so much for your understanding and your willingness to give me another chance

[Hotshot]

honestly pretty funny and not really ban worthy imo, maybe a gag but that's pretty funny.

anyways back to the topic at hand and not you seething over me making a joke you didn't like/this guy making jokes you don't like

Making mountains out of mole hills for jokes you don't like isn't really the gotcha that some people think it is. Dinks has had WAY more drama filled people come back (or even be admins lol) so I think some kid coming back two years later is perfectly reasonable.

It's not just "Jokes" the admins didn't like, it's directly against the rules of the server. What's the "joke" in calling someone a pedophile for killing you if not entirely shock value. It's meant to be shocking because it's wrong, and because it's wrong it's against the rules. Your humor and what you find funny does not dictate the rules.

It's also kind of silly to keep saying "We've unbanned worse". Like yeah no shit we've unbanned worse, it doesn't excuse the actions of the person you are talking about though and if it's half of your argument for an unban it's likely not to be a strong argument.


I like mocha, and I want mocha unbanned and able to play so I'll +1 an unban or a reduction, but I'm not gonna sit here and act like he did nothing wrong in my eyes, mocha said some edgy and fucked up things that got them (rightfully) banned, and genuinely apologizing is a good start to the unban process. If anything, an unban with a warn point probation or even a permanent warn point on the record that they can appeal at a later date would be a fair way to unban them but keep them on a short leash.

Not that I'm refuting your end point there, but has anyone else been put on probation after being unbanned, or had a permanent warn point? I've seen people unbanned for worse and didn't see anything like probation or a permanent warn point on their record or having to deal with. Making an epstein island joke or whatever he directly said doesn't seem like it needs a permanent warn point.

Many of the recent successful appeals for permanent bans have had probationary points put on as a sort of “middle ground”. The only exceptions are things like Mass RDM typically don’t have a warn-point probation, since the original offence has nothing to do with warn points.

I think for this case, since the staff team feels so aggrieved personally by this to some degree it seems, that he does receive a few warning points for a set amount of time, but nothing substantial like six-months, a year, what have you. I think that's a little silly. I think maybe a 14 day thing, 30 day thing. Someone playing fairly on the server for two straight weeks is a long time. I don't particularly agree with the probation system, but if it's the norm for you guys now I think that's fair.